Quoting: etonbears[But, when was the last time you saw a flashy ad on TV ( or anywhere else ) for Linux? "Ordinary" people are much more attuned to wanting things that are advertised to them as aspirational than as a matter of good sense.

What stops anyone from partnering with Dell, and making them provide Linux option on all their models, and not just on a couple of laptops? I agree though it requires money. I'd also like to see KDE used for such purpose.

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Quoting: etonbearsFor GOG.com they position Galaxy as an integral part of their strategy for releasing future CDPR games, while also having a goal of releasing multiple non-CDPR Galaxy-enabled games each year. Part of me can't help wondering if, as the owner of a digital distributor, they will go the direction of EA and only sell future CDPR games on their own platform. One might also speculate they pulled Witcher 3 on Linux and MacOS until they can release a galaxy-enabled version on GOG, and not have to pay Valve 30% of a rather small profit.

There is no point for them to limit reach of their games by selling them through GOG only - it will only reduce their profits.

And I don't think lack of Galaxy for Linux affected their TW3 Linux efforts. That's just a very minor question in comparison.

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Quoting: etonbearsIn normal circumstances, I would also expect CDPR to require their updated engine to always produce a working build of previous games as a regression test; it would certainly represent their most rigorous QA option.

From what I've heard from engine developers, way more often engines are thrown away (for the most part) with each new major version. Which would mean they won't be able to use CP2077 engine for TW3 without some huge effort.

But again, we have no info.

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Quoting: ShmerlI'd call it perceived lack of demand. Disprove them by flooding them with requests for Linux versions.

The problem is that it's not just perceived. We really need bigger market share. Man, the Linux desktop is really pretty damned good (I remember when it wasn't, but those days are gone) . . . I know there's a monopolist busily trying to keep it sidelined, I know nobody has figured a way to milk it for concentrated money, but there's a side of me that really can't understand why we're not growing much.

To a degree. Bigger market share would surely prevent such snags, but even current is already enough to make profit, as other developers demonstrated. I suppose CDPR are either not convinced, or they don't want to bother anymore, since they aren't familiar with Linux development and fixing that requires investment.

In the context of this discussion, I think the main reason for all these problems is their expectation for Valve to push Steam Machines, which didn't materialize. Remember - both ads were about SteamOS specifically.

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Quoting: elbuglioneI did not know about that game.
In any case, Gwent (2D Unity Engine game and NOT LINUX?) is the final evidence that needed to understand the problem of CDPR and GOG is unrelated to the difficulty of making ports for Linux, lack of time or poor support.

It is simply negligence...

I'd call it perceived lack of demand. Disprove them by flooding them with requests for Linux versions. And if you don't want to, it only proves their point of view ;)

They can demonstrate demand requests to their investors (to show potential customer base). Not sure what else can motivate them.

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Quoting: elbuglioneMaybe we could choose to skip the part where we put the negative reviews for The Witcher 3 ... and opt for a rainfall of Positives in The Witcher 2, with special emphasis on its good performance for Linux ...
Do you think that approach would get someone's attention in CDPR?

I think simply expressing interest in their new (and recent) games on Linux is already enough. For example, GOG/CDPR seem to be focused a lot on their on-line game Gwent. It's even using Unity. Why is it not available for Linux? Personally I'm not so interested in it, but some are.

Besides voting in wishlists I already linked above, leave some informative comments where you express your interest here:

The Witcher 3: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/forum/en/the-witcher-series/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/21270-the-witcher-3-for-linux [External Link]

Gwent: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/forum/en/gwent/general-discussions-aa/101703-linux-version [External Link]

Cyberpunk 2077: http://forums.cdprojektred.com/forum/en/cyberpunk/cyberpunk-2077-discussion/110083-cyberpunk-2077-for-linux [External Link]

If you want to praise TW2 as their previous achievement on Linux - why not. But show some visibility. So far the impression is, that very few care (besides the wishlist entry).

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Quoting: Mountain ManThat's the premise of the article we're discussing.

Right, my point is, it's a very shaky premise, while you discuss it as a granted fact above. Unless the whole discussion is just hypothetical.

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Quoting: Mountain ManBut when I look at the developer's response in this case, the phrase "Cutting off your nose to spite your face" comes to mind.

You assume the claim that they cancelled Linux plans because of trolls is correct. Nothing really substantiates it.

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By the way, if anyone has shares in CDPR, you can ask them about what happened to the Linux release of TW3 here: https://www.cdprojekt.com/pl/forums/topic/lista-pytan-do-zarzadu/ [External Link]

In that thread, there were people who were asking about Linux release of TW2 (before it came out), but surprisingly, not a single person asked about TW3 release.

Disclaimer - I'm not a shareholder.

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Look what I found here: https://www.cdprojekt.com/en/wp-content/uploads-en/2015/03/management_board_report_on_cd_projekt_s-a-_activities_in_2014-1.pdf [External Link]

In April 2012 an extended edition of The Witcher 2 was released on the PC and Xbox 360. Both parts of The Witcher series are now also available for Apple and Linux machines.

Clearly they planned to release TW1 for Linux at some point.

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