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The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
4 Jul 2017 at 2:03 am UTC Likes: 1
But during their last public meeting with shareholders they suddenly announced that those plans to release REDengine were cancelled (no reasons given). That also spelled doom for release of their full blown modding tools for TW3, which upset quite a lot of people. I.e. those modding tools were supposed to be some version of their engine editor they were planning to release for others.
4 Jul 2017 at 2:03 am UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: GuestIndeed they do. But now, justify the extra expenditure of doing this to the board of directors. That's a lot of investment, for 1% of the market.They apparently already explained it. They planned to make REDengine a product on its own, i.e. they wanted to license it to other developers. Making it cross platform in that context already is about not falling behind competition. They even explicitly spelled out those plans in their past yearly reports.
But during their last public meeting with shareholders they suddenly announced that those plans to release REDengine were cancelled (no reasons given). That also spelled doom for release of their full blown modding tools for TW3, which upset quite a lot of people. I.e. those modding tools were supposed to be some version of their engine editor they were planning to release for others.
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
4 Jul 2017 at 1:52 am UTC
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Very few people ever posted in CDPR forums about interest for Linux versions. The impression is always, no one cares.
4 Jul 2017 at 1:52 am UTC
Quoting: bingusI wonder if there is something we could do to show we aren't all jerks. Maybe CDPR needs cookies.Talk to them directly, they read comments, even if they don't reply.
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Post a comment here [External Link].
Very few people ever posted in CDPR forums about interest for Linux versions. The impression is always, no one cares.
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
4 Jul 2017 at 1:31 am UTC Likes: 2
4 Jul 2017 at 1:31 am UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: Guestedit: Even if the renderer was Vulkan and the middleware paid for, that does not equal a Linux port. You still have to have the expertise to deal with and support Linux. Look at all the smaller devs who have thought that all they need to do is ship a binary, and have gotten severely burned when they were unequipped to deal with the technical support.CDPR have more than enough money to hire experts. They hired a lot of developers to work on CP2077. So that's not really an excuse. No one is stopping them from investing in their engine, and making it truly cross platform. I.e. no wrappers and etc. - native Linux development from day one.
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
4 Jul 2017 at 1:04 am UTC Likes: 3
4 Jul 2017 at 1:04 am UTC Likes: 3
Quoting: aldyThese are really sad news. After finishing The Witcher 2 I was waiting to play the sequel :'(Wine developers are doing better job than CDPR, to make that a reality. See here.
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
4 Jul 2017 at 12:01 am UTC Likes: 2
Would still be good to know, what the reason is. I'm more inclined to guess, it was related to the failure of Steam Machines to gain wider adoption. After all, their early ads indicated connection to SteamOS release, and even in the interview Marcin Iwiński said, they'd release TW3 for Linux if "[Valve] will deliver a cool console".
4 Jul 2017 at 12:01 am UTC Likes: 2
Quoting: webcreatureYes you're right of course! So let's say they might have decided to not contimue the experience...I suppose someone on top there, cancelled it. But we don't really know the reason, and from the timeline, it's quite unlikely that it were bad reactions on TW2 Linux release.
Would still be good to know, what the reason is. I'm more inclined to guess, it was related to the failure of Steam Machines to gain wider adoption. After all, their early ads indicated connection to SteamOS release, and even in the interview Marcin Iwiński said, they'd release TW3 for Linux if "[Valve] will deliver a cool console".
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
3 Jul 2017 at 11:48 pm UTC Likes: 8
See this timeline: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/wiki/The_Witcher_3_Linux_port
In the summer of 2015 they were still working on it. Some problems happened after that, and year later they already changed the tone of their messages to "we are looking into" and eventually "nothing to say about it". TW2 for Linux came out in May 2014.
So, something must have happened in between summer of 2015 and spring of 2016, that borked the project. And I doubt it could be some outrage, that happened in 2014.
3 Jul 2017 at 11:48 pm UTC Likes: 8
Quoting: webcreatureThat is not racism, it's not even OSsism, it's free market. They are not denying us a right to do anything. The product people got so angry about was fixed and works fine now. It seems CDPR just decided, to not repeat the experience..Not exactly. CDPR started working on the Linux version of TW3, communicated multiple times that it's coming, and then cancelled it without any explanation. That was already well after the release of TW2 for Linux by the way.
See this timeline: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/wiki/The_Witcher_3_Linux_port
In the summer of 2015 they were still working on it. Some problems happened after that, and year later they already changed the tone of their messages to "we are looking into" and eventually "nothing to say about it". TW2 for Linux came out in May 2014.
So, something must have happened in between summer of 2015 and spring of 2016, that borked the project. And I doubt it could be some outrage, that happened in 2014.
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
3 Jul 2017 at 11:41 pm UTC Likes: 3
Their own report to sharehodlers however highlighted TW2 for Linux as a success. I doubt they'll do it if it was losing money for them.
3 Jul 2017 at 11:41 pm UTC Likes: 3
Quoting: GuestThey already did - on Linux. Thats the point.The point is that it doesn't make sense. They get backlashes all the time, and they didn't shut down Windows development. Because they get money. Apparently their either weren't profitable with Linux port, or something else affects it.
Their own report to sharehodlers however highlighted TW2 for Linux as a success. I doubt they'll do it if it was losing money for them.
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
3 Jul 2017 at 11:14 pm UTC
3 Jul 2017 at 11:14 pm UTC
Quoting: GuestWhy are you bringing VP into it at all ? I've given my personal - PERSONAL - opinion as to why CDPR cancelled the Witcher 3 port. VP haven't said any thing at all.Did CDPR approach VP about TW3 for Linux at all, or it didn't even come to that?
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
3 Jul 2017 at 11:13 pm UTC
3 Jul 2017 at 11:13 pm UTC
Quoting: TuxeeSeriously? Makes me wonder why there are any Windows games out there. I'd rather say the port didn't really pay off (because it was a released buggy and too early) and the name-calling was just the icing on the cake, or maybe even not that.I don't think the port was any more problematic than many others. After several iterations it became decent. So why couldn't it pay off?
The Witcher 3 didn't come to Linux likely as a result of the user-backlash from The Witcher 2
3 Jul 2017 at 11:09 pm UTC Likes: 1
3 Jul 2017 at 11:09 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: GuestYou have no idea of the scale of the backlash if you think it was "5 trolls"I suppose part of the problem is very high initial expectation. TW2 itself is a high quality game, so that possibly magnified the reaction of those who got angry at the initial bad performance. It's partially a management failure on CDPR part, to predict such outcome. Imagine them releasing TW3 for Windows with bad performance. The outrage would be much worse than one with TW2 for Linux.
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