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Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
21 May 2017 at 3:17 pm UTC
21 May 2017 at 3:17 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdaweThere is no conspiracy and no coincidence, it's business and they don't generally port games that are on GOG.That's exactly what I was saying. Unlike some here, who claim that current situation is random and it just "happens" that Feral didn't release any game through DRM-free stores yet.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
21 May 2017 at 3:07 pm UTC
21 May 2017 at 3:07 pm UTC
Quoting: Doc AngeloAs you said yourself, they can only make a proposition to port a game.Then you'd need to claim it's a coincidence. But I'm not convinced. See above, answer from Feral themselves which makes it clear it's not.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
21 May 2017 at 7:20 am UTC
21 May 2017 at 7:20 am UTC
Quoting: lucifertdarkthe original developers/publishers only use Steam to release their games so it makes sense that the Feral ports only exist on Steam.I'm repeating myself for the third time already. I'm not asking about DRM minded publishers, I'm asking why Feral choose to port only games from such.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
21 May 2017 at 3:14 am UTC
21 May 2017 at 3:14 am UTC
Quoting: Doc AngeloAs far as I know, Feral choose it. Which differs from porting companies which are hired to port something. In case of Feral, they propose other gaming companies to port the game (and to bear all the costs for it), and in return they ask to share the profit from Linux sales (however they measure that). At least that's how I understood it, others can correct me if that's wrong.Quoting: ShmerlI'm asking about why Feral pick only such cases to port. That's already something they choose.May I ask why you are phrasing it like this? Is there an indication that Feral chooses for themselves which games they port?
Quoting: Doc AngeloOr do you mean that Feral has more contractual offers than they could handle and they are deliberately only picking ones with Steam DRM? That would be pretty cool, just because that would mean that the Linux market is so big, that Feral and Aspyr can't even handle all the requests. But I doubt that.I mean it looks like they only pick titles to port which are owned by publishers who are pro-DRM (or against releasing in DRM-free stores).
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
21 May 2017 at 3:12 am UTC
21 May 2017 at 3:12 am UTC
Quoting: lucifertdarkBefore Valve started supporting Linux I had exactly ONE game that worked in Linux, I now have nearly 800.I don't really understand what you mean. As far as I know, none of games that Feral ported have any version on GOG.
How many Feral ports are for games that have been available on GOG as Windows only games? If the answer is None you have your reason why Feral only offer Steam keys.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
19 May 2017 at 10:19 pm UTC
Second, I already told Feral about it, so I'm sure they know.
19 May 2017 at 10:19 pm UTC
Quoting: LeopardNext time , i will to the Feral<...>If you are not happy about it<...>Few things. I find exclusivity approach bad. Put yourself in that situation, and say you like when you are excluded. I.e. for instance when you as Linux user are ignored by Windows only release. Show me one person who thinks that exclusivity is something positive. Surprising thing is, Linux users should probably know this topic in and out already.
Second, I already told Feral about it, so I'm sure they know.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
19 May 2017 at 10:06 pm UTC
And Feral are always welcome to chime in and clarify the situation to avoid confusion and wrong assumptions on our part.
19 May 2017 at 10:06 pm UTC
Quoting: johndoeMoney rules the world.I'm not sure it explains what's going on. More users = more money.
Quoting: liamdaweIsn't it obvious already? They pick what they think will make money, why does it need to be any more complicated than that?Because obviously others are making money just fine by not being Steam only. So what gives? The "money" argument doesn't sound convincing here. Steam makes more money - that's right. But Steam + other stores makes even more. So I don't get the exclusivity. Discarding that (illogical assumption), what remains is either DRM, lock-in, or some deal which requires this exclusivity.
And Feral are always welcome to chime in and clarify the situation to avoid confusion and wrong assumptions on our part.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
19 May 2017 at 10:05 pm UTC
19 May 2017 at 10:05 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdaweAs others have said, they are likely still bound by the original Publisher, so if the game isn't on GOG, Feral will likely not be able to do it themselves. They would need the Windows version on there too, I doubt they can just do whatever they please.That's why I said above, that I'm not asking about such cases, that would be pointless to ask. I'm asking about why Feral pick only such cases to port. That's already something they choose.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
19 May 2017 at 9:50 pm UTC
19 May 2017 at 9:50 pm UTC
Quoting: johndoeFeral are porters, not game developers.Read my post above, I explain there what my question is. And it's not about publishers obviously, it's about Feral.
They are definitely in one way bound to the deal with the publishers.
Feral have released the Linux requirements to run Shogun 2 with NVIDIA, AMD & Intel supported
19 May 2017 at 9:48 pm UTC
19 May 2017 at 9:48 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdaweThey go where the main money is: Steam. It's going to be as simple as that. It's the same reason for a lot of developers.How does that preclude them from releasing in other stores, unless they have Steam exclusivity preference? Blaming it on coincidence can go only so far.
Quoting: liamdaweIt's the same reason for a lot of developers.For developers the reason is usually some hard lock-in, which they fell for. There is no reason to be exclusive otherwise. Exclusivity always means lost sales.
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