I brought the game and played it once or twice. Didn't really seem to be anyone online, but it probably doesn't help that I'm in Australia. I didn't expect that to suddenly change over time. A single-player campaign would have been awesome to keep me interested until more players were around.

Don't remember any performance issues, but it was a long time since I last looked at it.

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Quoting: Pecisk

Quoting: boltronicsThe worst part about the AMDGPU-Pro drivers by far is that it still relies on proprietary microcode. Most Nvidia cards have free software microcode (up until the last couple of generations at least).

All modern graphics cards require binary closed firmware.

Sad but true. At least you can get a relatively new Nvidia card easily enough. And Intel's firmware is built into the UEFI last I checked, so it doesn't need to be shipped with the kernel to work.

Looks like you can get an Nvidia GTX 750Ti 2Gb from MSY in Australia for AU$166, which IIRC doesn't require proprietary drivers.

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Quoting: tuxintuxedo

Quoting: boltronicsIt's quite frustrating. I kinda feel like, if I can't have working free software distro-supported graphics on AMD, why not just buy Nvidia?

Don't you think this statement sounds ridiculous knowing how Nvidia "supports" free and open drivers?

Yes I do, which is why I said it's so frustrating!

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The worst part about the AMDGPU-Pro drivers by far is that it still relies on proprietary microcode. Most Nvidia cards have free software microcode (up until the last couple of generations at least). So when I go to run GNU Guix or Trisquel on whatever, the machine has so many problems that I sometimes can't even get picture on the screen - I have to fall back to Intel integrated graphics (which I normally disable due to my CPU overclock). But if I boot up my GTX660M laptop, these distros work 100%.

We're told the firmware is proprietary because of the DRM stuff that's basically only used on Windows, so I don't see why AMD can't just strip that stuff out of it and release the remaining non-DRM-related functionality as free software. Then it could be included in Linux Libre and all the 100% free distros, and it would be the fastest 100% free driver available as well.

Even if some actually used functionality had to be disabled, it would still be a better situation than we have now, and it would probably (depending on missing functionality) still be possible to recommend AMD cards for the best free software-compatible experience.

It's quite frustrating. I kinda feel like, if I can't have working free software distro-supported graphics on AMD, why not just buy Nvidia?

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*Loving* the speed increases with AMDGPU-Pro over fglrx (now that I've got it working properly. Games like Shadow of Mordor went from an unplayable average of ~20FPS at 1440 (medium detail) to a pleasant ~40FPS on my R9 285. Very happy with how things have worked out. I knew AMD was working on this which is why I went for a cheaper 285 over a 290, but it feels like it's taken forever to get here.

Well technically it's still Beta. I hate that when you go to Drivers+Support on the AMD website, it lists "Latest AMD Radeon Drivers" and there's no GNU/Linux option. You have to click "Other" - and even then the new Beta drivers aren't listed. I had to find them via a web search. Makes sense that they would be ashamed to add fglrx as a prominent download option (which haven't received an update all year), but these new AMDGPU-Pro drivers rock. AMD, you don't need to hide the GNU/Linux downloads behind "Other" now. Be proud of the new drivers! lol.

Still no Crossfire support though, and some games showed no performance increase at all, such as Dying Light which still runs at a horrible ~20FPS or less at 1440... my GTX660M on my old laptop gets better... but we're getting there! Been playing Shadow of Mordor all weekend (which I bought ages ago) because I can only just now run it properly. :)

Also, what pete910 says. The installer absolutely sucks. Better to just use gdebi *.deb, and then you don't need to worry about it installing unpackaged files such as the uninstall script, putting unnecessary stuff under /var/opt, adding a useless /etc/apt/sources.d/amdgpu.list file (which messes with apt-get/aptitude because it's pointing to an untrusted source), etc. I can't understand why they put it together that way.

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I played Tomb Raider a couple of years ago under Wine 1.7.11 on weaker hardware than I have now (was a GTX660M) and didn't have any issues with it being too slow (that I can recall, anyway).

https://systemsaviour.com/finished-games/#GNU [External Link]

Fereal could have easily "ported" this game a long time ago... although I agree that the new launcher is nice. I'm just disappointed that the newer Rise of the Tomb Raider wasn't ported instead, since that's the one that doesn't work.

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=33591 [External Link]

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Not only does it support AMD GPUs, it supports Mesa! That Is Amazing.

We love you Feral!!

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Current specs:
Intel [email protected]
Thermaltake Water 3.0 AIO in a 3/3 fan push/pull configuration
G.Skill 3200MHz CL15-15-15-35 1.35V 32Gb
MSI Z170A Gaming M7
Asus Strix Radeon R9 285
2x Western Digital Black 1Tb in software RAID0
1x Western Digital Green 6Tb
1x Sandisk 480Gb SATA SSD
1x OCZ Vertex 2 120Gb SATA SSD
Ducky Shine 5 RGB mechanical keyboard (CherryMX brown)
Logitech G502 wired mouse
Sennheiser TR185 / Sennheiser PC 360 / Logitech G35 headphones (depending on what I'm doing / using)
Logitech Z-5500 Digital 5.1 Speaker System
Various gamepads and a Thrustmaster T.Flight Hotas X (which I've never been able to get the throttle working quite right on GNU/Linux so far)
Phanteks Enthoo Primo Special Edition case
Antec High Current Pro Platinum 1300 PSU

The pictures suck because my apartment is really dark and my phone doesn't have a flash.

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Quoting: adolsonI don't think you understand how porting games actually works.

Ha.

Quoting: adolsonIt's so frustrating that I keep seeing Linux users buying Windows games to run in Wine so when we get ports months or years after the original release, the sales are pitiful and discouraging.

That's too bad but to be expected. I've ended up with so many games from bundles over the years, generally mixed with GNU/Linux games.

Further, when a title is so old, of course most people even remotely interested in the game would have picked it up on a sale. If you're really excited about something, why not pick it up on a Steam sale for $5 after a couple of years and take a chance with Wine. After all, the vast majority of games don't get ports, so the chances are very slim of a native build ever being released.

Developers need to factor these considerations into deciding which games to port and writing contracts, and I'm certain they do.

Quoting: adolsonNot all of us use Wine, bucko. Those of us who actually want more games to be ported actually spend our money on the games that get ported, and do our best to not add to the Windows sales figures.

That's your prerogative of course, but I would argue that the large Wine and CrossOver userbase (and Transgaming before that) is one of the reasons GNU/Linux gaming is as big as it is today - because it demonstrated a need for a market. For example, I've been gaming using Wine on GNU/Linux [External Link] well before GNU/Linux Steam builds were ever available.

So how about you? Are you telling me you've never played an EA game, or a Blizzard game or a Telltale game? Even if you played on console or any other platform, you're a hypocrite since that too wouldn't be a GNU/Linux sale. So stop knocking Wine.

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Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II works great in Wine already, so can't imagine they have to do much other than package and test it.

It's so frustrating that we keep seeing games that work perfectly in Wine already get ports months or years after the original release. If it was a day one release with a native port and also happened to work great in Wine, that I could understand. But when it's already been out for over a year and everyone knows it works great with Wine, what's the point?

Instead, I'd be happier if they spent some time porting the other Warhammer games that have known problems. eg.

Kill Team:
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22762 [External Link]

Space Marine:
https://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32515 [External Link]

Although probably Kill Team isn't too far away from working at this point, after having waited all this time.

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