The Linux manual for the Shadow of Mordor port has been spotted in the wild, and it looks like it may be a sore spot for AMD gamers.
Note: This is all subject to change, as SoM hasn't been released yet. We sincerely hope they can optimise for AMD graphics users too, but it could be a driver issue and out of Feral's control.
Found on SteamDB (as usual!), the manual was added for Linux. You can find it directly here.
A user in our forum and several in our IRC mentioned it, so it's worth giving people a little pre-warning:
Mordor FAQ for LinuxWhich graphics cards and driver versions are supported by Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor?
Graphics cards
Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor requires the following graphics card series or better:
Nvidia: 6xx series
AMD and Intel: AMD and Intel graphics cards are not currently supported by Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor.
Graphics drivers
Every effort has been made to support the graphics drivers packaged with Ubuntu, as well as open-source drivers. However, as the game contains a number of advanced graphics options, some driver versions are not compatible with it.
The driver versions below have been tested, and these and newer versions will run the game without issues:
Nvidia: 346.35
You may be able to play using older drivers. However, it is possible that you will encounter performance and stability issues, and we do not currently offer support for older driver versions.
Open-source drivers
Open-source graphics drivers are not currently supported by Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor. Unfortunately, the current open-source Nvidia drivers do not support a number of the graphical features used in the game.
It's a shame, but not entirely unexpected. Aspyr Media noted in their blog posts while porting Civilization BE that AMD (and Intel) may not be supported due to many issues, but luckily they fixed it before release.
Will this stop you trying Shadow of Mordor if you are on AMD graphics?
Shadow of Mordor is still one of the best games I've played in recent years, and stole many hours from me on Playstation (copy long since sold now it's coming to Linux I should add!). I plan to sink many more into the Linux version at release, and will do a write up of it for sure. Feral are taking their sweet time, but it will be more than worth it! Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: PlintslchoQuoting: Maelranethe power-consumption [...] when I bought my last card, nvidia had nothing to offer apart from a more costly card with less power and bigger power consumption [...]
Do you care to share some benchmarks to back that statement up? I'm curious because I have yet to see a single test where an up-to-date AMD GPU or CPU is consuming less power than a comparable nVidia GPU/Intel CPU. And that's exactly what is keeping me from switching back to AMD. Plus the fact that I haven't had any trouble whatsoever anymore with graphics card drivers since I switched to nVidia.
The bold part is where I must stop. I'm not talking about current generations. Currently nvidia would be a better bet (apart from the proprietary stuff). I'm not arguing there. My card is 4 years old now and back then, for what I use my pc and what goals I set myself, nvidia could not offer anything. If I had wanted the best of the best cards nvidia would've won back then too.
I have no problem with the nouveau drivers either, on my old notebook, but then again, I don't use that for gaming ;)
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Quoting: Mountain ManQuoting: MaelraneAs I said, nvidia is currently not an option as I do not plan to use proprietary drivers. If gaming would be my only concern I'd just boot up windows, really. That would be much less of a problem and currently I'd rather support Microsoft than nvidia :pFrankly, you're making less and less sense the more you post. "I refuse to support proprietary solutions! I'd rather use Windows!" Um, what?
Easy answer: I do not want to use proprietary software on my working system (which is Linux) because in the past that brought nothing but trouble. I'm using a rolling release distribution on the majority of my systems here and that works great for me, so I do not intend to go that proprietary road again.
Plus: On Linux I'm one of that Richard Stallman guys ;)
Also: I do not see any reasons why nvidia could not go the same road as AMD and make the base of their drivers open source. They simply not care, so I don't care for the framerate I could get with a nvidia.
tl;dr: So I'd rather boot up Windows for gaming, than pollute my working system with proprietary software/drivers.
Quoting: Mountain ManThe word "monopoly" gets thrown around way too much in situations where it's not warranted. Secondly, we could certainly blame AMD if they're forced out of the market because they failed to be competitive.
Look, I'm all for competition, and it would be great if Nvidia wasn't the only choice for Linux, but AMD needs to get their act together and actually compete!
It's one of these chicken-and-egg problems really. Because if nobody is buying AMD how can they get the money to improve at a scale where they could become a real threat to Nvidia (and Intel)?
Sadly it's not that easy. But as I said, it's an easy choice for me, as a dev, as a gamer. If nvidia is the only way to go, I'll leave that train. I will not support a monopoly (and if AMD is not supported anymore, it is a monopoly from the viewpoint of a gamer!)
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Quoting: Maelraneit is a monopoly from the viewpoint of a gamer!)
As someone else pointed out, you would be willing to support a monopoly (Microsoft) over a monopoly (Nvidia), which makes no fucking sense. If you try to make the Apple claim, then I'll make the Intel claim. This is how asinine your argument is.
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PublicNuisance Jun 14, 2015
This is disappointing news. I would say the lack of a DRM free version would keep me away more than the lack of support for AMD cards. I find it hard to believe that many many other games work fine with AMD hardware and there is something keeping Mordor from working with their hardware and it is somehow AMD's fault. It would be nice if the developer went into more detail about what the issues are.
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Quoting: maodzedunIs that why Bioshock drops to 30fps on medium in open spaces for me? Must be the insane performance I get from my 290x. Meanwhile in Windows I'm downscaling The Witcher 2 from 1440p and Planetside 2 from 4K and average over 60fps in both game. Please, AMD performance sucks big time. If I was intent on using Linux exclusively I wound't buy an AMD card if they gave me money to do it. Right now, a user who wants to game in Linux using AMD hardware has two choices - either use a crappy proprietary blob that provides 50% performance AT BEST if you're lucky and brings a number of bugs on the table, OR use the open source drivers which also bring sub par performance, lack proper GUI and come with various bugs, as well. Man, I'm truly shocked that no manufacturer would build a Steam Machine around these energy inefficient and heat producing GPUs that have been having inherently bad drivers for year. And don't even get me started on crossfire support.No, that's because Bioshock is an eON title and your CPU is bottle necking your performance. That's hardly AMD's fault.
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Quoting: KeizgonQuoting: Maelraneit is a monopoly from the viewpoint of a gamer!)
As someone else pointed out, you would be willing to support a monopoly (Microsoft) over a monopoly (Nvidia), which makes no fucking sense. If you try to make the Apple claim, then I'll make the Intel claim. This is how asinine your argument is.
You are right, I'd rather support Microsoft than nvidia. But "support" is rather stretchable, as an nvidia card would cost me something, while I get Windows for free in my job :)
But why am I even explaining myself to you? I must have a really low self-esteem.
Just buy your nvidia, it's fine by me, really ;)
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Quoting: jamesc359Quoting: maodzedunIs that why Bioshock drops to 30fps on medium in open spaces for me? Must be the insane performance I get from my 290x. Meanwhile in Windows I'm downscaling The Witcher 2 from 1440p and Planetside 2 from 4K and average over 60fps in both game. Please, AMD performance sucks big time. If I was intent on using Linux exclusively I wound't buy an AMD card if they gave me money to do it. Right now, a user who wants to game in Linux using AMD hardware has two choices - either use a crappy proprietary blob that provides 50% performance AT BEST if you're lucky and brings a number of bugs on the table, OR use the open source drivers which also bring sub par performance, lack proper GUI and come with various bugs, as well. Man, I'm truly shocked that no manufacturer would build a Steam Machine around these energy inefficient and heat producing GPUs that have been having inherently bad drivers for year. And don't even get me started on crossfire support.No, that's because Bioshock is an eON title and your CPU is bottle necking your performance. That's hardly AMD's fault.
I have an 4790k, how can that be a bottleneck for anything - last I checked this is the most powerful per core consumer grade CPU on the market. And for the record - I got around to installing the latest driver (after jumping some hoops of course) and I see a noticeable improvement in the Witcher 2 performance. And considering it's also an eON game, I'm guessing the problem is exactly the crappy driver that holds my Bioshock fps down.
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Quoting: maodzedunQuoting: jamesc359Quoting: maodzedunIs that why Bioshock drops to 30fps on medium in open spaces for me? Must be the insane performance I get from my 290x. Meanwhile in Windows I'm downscaling The Witcher 2 from 1440p and Planetside 2 from 4K and average over 60fps in both game. Please, AMD performance sucks big time. If I was intent on using Linux exclusively I wound't buy an AMD card if they gave me money to do it. Right now, a user who wants to game in Linux using AMD hardware has two choices - either use a crappy proprietary blob that provides 50% performance AT BEST if you're lucky and brings a number of bugs on the table, OR use the open source drivers which also bring sub par performance, lack proper GUI and come with various bugs, as well. Man, I'm truly shocked that no manufacturer would build a Steam Machine around these energy inefficient and heat producing GPUs that have been having inherently bad drivers for year. And don't even get me started on crossfire support.No, that's because Bioshock is an eON title and your CPU is bottle necking your performance. That's hardly AMD's fault.
I have an 4790k, how can that be a bottleneck for anything - last I checked this is the most powerful per core consumer grade CPU on the market. And for the record - I got around to installing the latest driver (after jumping some hoops of course) and I see a noticeable improvement in the Witcher 2 performance. And considering it's also an eON game, I'm guessing the problem is exactly the crappy driver that holds my Bioshock fps down.
I really wonder if the new AMD hardware is supported so badly, because my old HD6950 (2GB) runs Borderlands perfectly fine on Linux with the open source drivers.
(Both, BL2 and BL:TPS)
Of course it can't run Bioshock Infinite.
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Quoting: MaelraneI really wonder if the new AMD hardware is supported so badly, because my old HD6950 (2GB) runs Borderlands perfectly fine on Linux with the open source drivers.
(Both, BL2 and BL:TPS)
Of course it can't run Bioshock Infinite.
From what I gather - yes. 290/290x and Tonga GPUs get the worst support. At least Tonga will benefit from AMDGPU kernel, but I think the rest of the 2** series along with all of these re-brands in the 3** will still get crappy drier support no matter what AMD would have you believe.
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Quoting: maodzedunI have an 4790k, how can that be a bottleneck for anything - last I checked this is the most powerful per core consumer grade CPU on the market. And for the record - I got around to installing the latest driver (after jumping some hoops of course) and I see a noticeable improvement in the Witcher 2 performance. And considering it's also an eON game, I'm guessing the problem is exactly the crappy driver that holds my Bioshock fps down.
You could have a super computer and it wouldn't change the fact that it's an eON game.
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