The story of grey market G2A worsens, I really do recommend to stay away

I recently had a discussion on Steam regarding the grey key reselling market, and noticed that the URL g2a.com was censored (without any feedback for the sender).
I take it as another proof that this marketplace is very, very shady.

Also, it seems this screenshot (and more so, the reply) is taken out of its context. Where is the story they are referring to?

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoBut even if that were somehow the case you can create an endless supply of paypal accounts with the same credit card, so stop making excuses and spreading misinformation

You can also buy the games as gifts and send them to your other account. That's what I do for my kids' account.

From what I heard , people steal credit cards/accoutns and buy keys then sell them to G2A. By the time the person cancels the stolen card/account the key is already sold of - BE WARNED this is hearsay not proven fact.

But as the CS GO lotto conundrum , people will apologize for cheap crap since it's cheap.
You should see the comments sections on YT videos exposing G2A shadyness. All they care about is price.

Some devs even came out and said better to pirate their game then buy on gray market.

This is the ticket of the Steam support about the use of the same credit card on two or more steam account...
I hope you understand the spanish.

QuoteThis is the ticket of the Steam support about the use of the same credit card on two or more steam account...

I have two accounts one for linux and one for windows. I use the same card on both accounts.

Quoting: RussianNeuroMancer

Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoThat is something that Steam, Humble, Greenman, GOG, etc will NEVER NEVER NEVER do because, unlike G2A, they don't understand how the real economy works outside their bubble...

Actually you can pay on Steam and GOG with Yandex.Wallet or QIWI Wallet (Russian electronic cash wallets) and you can pay with Bitcoin on Humble Store. So they do support local payment methods besides usual VISA/MasterCard/PayPal, but probably not for all countries.

Steam supports Bitcoin directly nowadays. Sadly I don't think Humble store does anymore unless they've flip flopped on it once again.

OMG stop this G2A nonsense. This is a public marketplace for keys, it's not their fault some of keys might be acquired illegally. And no, they shouldn't protect moron developers, they should protect themselves. If they sell someone keys with a stolen credit card it's not G2A fault. Software industry is locked in as it is. All the games are rentals really instead of a product that you own, you can't rent them, you can't sell them, you can't do shit and yet you want to get rid of the last bastion of freedom, being able to trade the keys outside of the official store, man to man. Soon everything will be streamed on demand so I guess all of the people whining about G2A will be happy as everything will be "legal" and you will not own anything except the right to pay a monthly bill. Block the ebay too and all classifieds as they might offer stolen items as well.

Quoting: killyouIf they sell someone keys with a stolen credit card it's not G2A fault.

Is it not the bar owner's fault if they turn a blind eye to drug dealers on their premises as long as they get a cut? This isn't software piracy. Credit card theft is unarguably a crime, and the reason G2A won't implement effective screening is the fact that they would lose whatever profit they make on these illegal sales. They're not the heroes you're looking for.

Please do boycott G2A. They're not worth your support. If you feel an irrational need to punish game developers, please find a way that doesn't reward criminals.

Quoting: tuubi

Quoting: killyouIf they sell someone keys with a stolen credit card it's not G2A fault.

Is it not the bar owner's fault if they turn a blind eye to drug dealers on their premises as long as they get a cut? This isn't software piracy. Credit card theft is unarguably a crime, and the reason G2A won't implement effective screening is the fact that they would lose whatever profit they make on these illegal sales. They're not the heroes you're looking for.

Please do boycott G2A. They're not worth your support. If you feel an irrational need to punish game developers, please find a way that doesn't reward criminals.

I'm not using G2A anyway but to me they are getting the backlash they don't deserve. How on earth would they be able to tell if the keys have been acquired by the seller legally? If someone would want to sell FCKGQ Windows XP it's obvious that's a scam, but if all the keys are valid and generated by developers then they cannot really tell whether the payment for the keys was legal or not. Let's say I'm selling an item on eBay. How would they be able to verify that it wasn't stolen or paid with a stolen credit card? They can't. It's like unleashing your anger on a stationary store clerk because they sold you a crappy product where in fact they are only the middle man and not involved in production process. The whole thing is just stupid. Developers can't just deal with the problem themselves so they are trying to pass the blame. They want to be smart and sell some of the keys directly without giving Steam their share so they have to be able to protect themselves. If they can't do that then they should rely entirely on big stores to do this for them to minimize the risk giving the store it's well deserved cut.

Quoting: killyouI'm not using G2A anyway but to me they are getting the backlash they don't deserve.

In this case they are getting backlash for not implementing proper screening and then lying about it. The clerk is a straw man. G2A is not an innocent bystander or anything like a volunteer providing a public service. They're a big business with hundreds of employees globally and a budget of millions.