Heroes of Hammerwatch [Steam], the rogue-lite action-adventure from Crackshell is now officially out and it looks good, sadly though the Linux version is Steam only.
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Originally, the GOG store actually showed it was coming to Linux, but at release it's Windows-only on GOG. Speaking on Steam, the developer stated this is due to GOG Galaxy not being on Linux:
Sorry, their Galaxy system and SDK doesn't support Linux so in the end it seems like its not coming on GOG until we get that sorted
Their previous Hammerwatch game has a Linux build on GOG, but that was due to it having Direct IP connect multiplayer, whereas it seems they've moved towards using services from GOG and Steam to help handle multiplayer. This is obviously a repeating problem for Linux gamers, with multiple games not having a Linux build on GOG due to this.
About the game:
Heroes of Hammerwatch is a rogue-lite action-adventure game set in the same universe as Hammerwatch. Encounter endless hordes of enemies, traps, puzzles, secrets and lots of loot, as you battle your way through procedurally generated levels to reach the top of the Forsaken Spire.
A rogue-lite with a lot of persistent progression. You will start each run in Outlook, a town which you can upgrade to grant your heroes with various enhancements that will further help you in your quest. The heroes themselves will also remain persistent, you can even bring your own heroes to your friends game!
We've reached out to the developer for review keys, hopefully we will be able to tell you what we think soon. So far, it seems users on Steam are quite liking it.
Article taken from GamingOnLinux.com.
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Quoting: hummer010Just to echo this statement.Quoting: KimyrielleBut make no mistake, GOG is NOT a Linux friendly company, ...
I disagree. EA is not a Linux friendly company. Bethesda is not a Linux friendly company.
While GOG may not be a champion of the Linux cause, the fact that they sell and support Linux games makes them a Linux friendly company.
Just because GOG haven't yet put Galaxy on Linux, does not suddenly make them unfriendly to Linux.
I mean come on, their staff send us keys directly to be able to cover games.
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Quoting: scaineWhat? That's not true. Plenty of DRM-free games on Steam [1]. Unless you're being all Stallman-like and saying "goddamit, I want to use a web page to download my game... not a client". If you are, then <sigh>. You're entitled to your opinion, but you'll never convince me that you're on the right path. Remember - I don't want the hassle of "web download, make executable, run dubious executable, never gets updated". I want that client, to take the pain away. Then, I'm only doing that shit ONCE. Even Itch realise this. Only GOG don't get it.
First, last time I checked the EULA of Steam it clearly stated that you have to run games from their client. That you *can* run some of them without doesn't take that legal point away. It also states clearly that you lose the right to play any game if your account is gone. This is DRM.
Furthermore, a Steam account for only buying DRM-free titles is quite futile, you can get all of those in the other stores.
Updating via client: Fine for you. One of my main gaming machines sits on a flaky 6Mbit line. Have fun using one there. I download the package at work, bring it on an external disk, and install. And I decide if/when I update a game. I see neither hassle nor pain in that. GOG installers so far have proven to be flawless. OK, I only have some 120 test cases.
Clients are fine - as long as they are optional.
As for Galaxy itself: I agree that they should get forward with it. I'm just not sure if I should look forward to its arrival. Because then I will have to start looking whether games *require* Galaxy, and be careful not to buy them...
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Captain_Rage Mar 2, 2018
Oh, no, this is bad news. Somehow I expected a GNU/Linux to be available at GOG on launch date. :/ I bought the game on GOG and now this piece of ill news shows up. I also bought Serious Sam's Bogus Detour on GOG but I still haven't been able to enjoy it on GNU/Linux.
I would not mind if GOG made a super simplistic and light Galaxy version for GNU/Linux so that users can use it just to download the game installers and log on to the service required to play the game. This would however clash with their statement of GOG Galaxy always being a voluntary addition and not a requirement.
On Windows you have to launch Serious Sam's Bogus Detour through GOG Galaxy in order to get connected and access multiplayer (otherwise everything except the singleplayer button will be grayed out, if launched outside of Galaxy). In Hammerwatch you could simply install and play the game and get connected, either through the direct IP option or see list of public games. I think the developers are to blame for this and I don't like their design choice (what will I do with my GOG purchase now? Probably leave it as it is, since I want to support GOG and Crackshell studios, but being let down like this seriously sucks; yes, Steam is nice and I have a very good experience with Steam on GNU/Linux, but as someone pointed out I don't like the idea of having 'all eggs in one basket' either, hence I prefer to have selected games on GOG).
I would not mind if GOG made a super simplistic and light Galaxy version for GNU/Linux so that users can use it just to download the game installers and log on to the service required to play the game. This would however clash with their statement of GOG Galaxy always being a voluntary addition and not a requirement.
On Windows you have to launch Serious Sam's Bogus Detour through GOG Galaxy in order to get connected and access multiplayer (otherwise everything except the singleplayer button will be grayed out, if launched outside of Galaxy). In Hammerwatch you could simply install and play the game and get connected, either through the direct IP option or see list of public games. I think the developers are to blame for this and I don't like their design choice (what will I do with my GOG purchase now? Probably leave it as it is, since I want to support GOG and Crackshell studios, but being let down like this seriously sucks; yes, Steam is nice and I have a very good experience with Steam on GNU/Linux, but as someone pointed out I don't like the idea of having 'all eggs in one basket' either, hence I prefer to have selected games on GOG).
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Quoting: HamishHere is my question though; GOG.com insists that Galaxy is completely optional, so how do Crackshell handle the Windows version of the game on GOG.com? Surely they must have a Windows version on GOG.com that does not have multiplayer available in order to have a non-Galaxy standalone installer?
This indeed is a point that alienates me. How do they handle games like this one, or Vikings? Can you really run them without Galaxy? It's not listed as a requirement either....
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Quoting: Captain_RageOh, no, this is bad news. Somehow I expected a GNU/Linux to be available at GOG on launch date. :/ I bought the game on GOG and now this piece of ill news shows up.I'd definitely request a refund...
QuoteOn Windows you have to launch Serious Sam's Bogus Detour through GOG Galaxy in order to get connected and access multiplayer (otherwise everything except the singleplayer button will be grayed out, if launched outside of Galaxy).Ah, that's the info I was looking for. So it can run without Galaxy, just disabling things that need it. And I see, for that title the restriction is even mentioned on the store page. Why not for HoH/Vikings?
And why isn't such an approach possible for Linux, too?
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Quoting: PitCase in point, Shadow Warrior Classic Redux is on GOG.com for Linux, and that has Galaxy support on Windows. Since they seem to need to provide a version without the Galaxy features enabled anyway, what is preventing the Linux release?Quoting: HamishHere is my question though; GOG.com insists that Galaxy is completely optional, so how do Crackshell handle the Windows version of the game on GOG.com? Surely they must have a Windows version on GOG.com that does not have multiplayer available in order to have a non-Galaxy standalone installer?
This indeed is a point that alienates me. How do they handle games like this one, or Vikings? Can you really run them without Galaxy? It's not listed as a requirement either....
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Quoting: PitThis indeed is a point that alienates me. How do they handle games like this one, or Vikings? Can you really run them without Galaxy? It's not listed as a requirement either....
The issue is relatively simple to solve technically. They can conditionally compile source with Galaxy calls, or they could make a dummy stub, if they worry about messing up the code with conditional compilation entries.
Interestingly, Kalypso released a few games without Galaxy for Linux on GOG just fine, but not Vikings. It's all quite illogical.
See: http://forum.kalypsomedia.com/showthread.php?tid=29787&pid=215977#pid215977
They said:
Quoteunfortunately Galaxy does not support Linux, and therefore games like Sudden Strike 4 and Vikings - Wolves of Midgard have not been released on GoG so far.
And strangely, they released Sudden Strike 4 for Linux on GOG after that without Galaxy, though not Vikings still.
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Well, after a few hours of playing this awesome game, I got drunk. Yay! You guys knock yourselves out on the DRM/Free holy war.
Remember though, we're here, on this site, because we have three things in common: 1. We love games. 2. We use and love Linux and 3. <mumble mumble mumble>
There was definitely a third thing. Community? Zombies? Beer? Probably beer. Yeah, I'm drunk.
Be cool peeps. See y'all in game.
Remember though, we're here, on this site, because we have three things in common: 1. We love games. 2. We use and love Linux and 3. <mumble mumble mumble>
There was definitely a third thing. Community? Zombies? Beer? Probably beer. Yeah, I'm drunk.
Be cool peeps. See y'all in game.
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Kimyrielle Mar 2, 2018
Quoting: ShmerlGOG isn't run by CDPR, they are related, but not the same people are making decisions for each.
"Related", eh?
That's...errmm...putting it mildly?
GOG is a 100% subsidiary of CD-Projekt. In other words, it's the same company. And the bosses of CD-Projekt are the bosses of GOG. You can safely assume that they call the shots there, because that's how it's done in business.
I know, GOG fanboys and -girls try super hard to make up an artificial distinction between CDPR and GOG, so that they can continue to imagine that GOG would somehow be a great Linux company, when CDPR has shown beyond any reasonable doubt that they aren't. I guess it's hard to accept that they are one and the same, huh?
Some people also try to tell themselves that Steam's DRM-free games aren't actually DRM free, so that they can continue bashing them.
*shrug*
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