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Today's news is sponsored by Radiant Entertainment, who've decided that five years after their Kickstarter that a Linux version of Stonehearth [Official Site] would be "more work than our team can handle". From their post about "Leaving the Nest":

I’m afraid it’s more work than our team can handle at this point. We’re going to cut this feature, and apologies to all of you who backed for this explicit reason. If there is no other way for you to play this game other than on Linux, and you backed for this reason only, please reach out to us via Kickstarter and we’ll see what we can do to make it right.

Linux (and Mac) support was a stretch goal too at $200K (although "only" $20K was specifically for it after the previous goal), so they  took extra money to make it happen, which is why it's quite frustrating. Mac fans aren't being left with egg on their face like us though, since they're still getting a version. They've also said they will cease support for the game as a whole after January 2019.

It comes as no surprise really, since Riot Games (League of Legends) actually acquired Radiant Entertainment back in 2016 and Radiant Entertainment themselves said in the linked post that Stonehearth is "not a priority from Riot’s overall strategic perspective".

We would urge anyone who backed it for Linux support, to act sooner rather than later if you want that refund.

They don't hold the crown for broken promises though, that is firmly on the head of Stainless Games for Carmageddon.

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Salvatos 6 Jul, 2018
Quoting: scaineSteam's trying to sell games, I get it. But it really annoys me that their "recently posted" section features 9 negative reviews, but the overall rating is "mostly positive"??

Even the positive reviews note game-breaking bugs, performance issues after 20 hours and AI that just doesn't work. Really weird and frustrating when I see such negativity summed up by Steam as mostly positive.
They can't just change the overall rating because of a handful of recent comments. Review bombing is a thing - that's part of why they started differentiating between recent and overall scores in the first place. When the negative reviews become a significant fraction of the whole, the rating will switch on its own.

As for positive reviews mentioning issues, the rating system can't know that. Unless they integrated some very advanced parsing engine into it that I'm not aware of, it's just a statistical comparison of the numbers of 'positive' vs. 'negative' reviews.
neowiz73 6 Jul, 2018
i can't say i didn't see this coming, from watching some of their dev streams on twitch. but it does work fine in wine with steam.
GustyGhost 6 Jul, 2018
If your platform is only considered a "stretch goal", I've got bad news for you.
NotSoQT 6 Jul, 2018
I wasn't expecting much and I'm still disappointed.
dpanter 6 Jul, 2018
Aww, why'd ya have to bring up Carmageddon... :'(
After all this time, that broken promise still hurts.
gabber 6 Jul, 2018
Guess they were exhausted from virtue signalling last month..
Salvatos 6 Jul, 2018
Quoting: dpanterAww, why'd ya have to bring up Carmageddon... :'(
After all this time, that broken promise still hurts.
At least they're giving refunds for Stonehearth...
ObsidianBlk 6 Jul, 2018
Quoting: soulsourceWhat should I say?
There are two options, basically: Either developers frequently make and test builds for all platforms they are planning to support, or they don't. In the first case they are likely to release for all platforms they were planning, in the latter case those platforms for which they didn't make and test builds frequently will not be supported in the end (unless they invest extra time/money to effectively port their game).

I feel this is key. Those developers that develop for Windows first really only say that for two reasons. 1) They really have NO intention of porting to Linux and really just hope you forget about the project. 2) They have absolutely no idea how complex their project will be and seriously under-estimate a post development port.

I've only backed a couple of Kickstarter games, personally. One of the big things I consider when backing... Are they committing to a same day release (or, have a solid reason for staggering). If Linux is a "stretch goal" with ner a word regarding Linux throughout the description... it's a pass for me.
YaroKasear 9 Jul, 2018
This is why I never bother with Kickstarter, ever. I'll gladly fund a game when there's actually something to show for it and when I can be sure the developers actually mean it when they say they'll do something.
Klaus 9 Jul, 2018
Given that refunds are offered, while disappointing, the lack of Linux support at least isn't scammy.

Stonehearth is a one of the better polished games in that genre. It works and it is fun, regardless of what checkboxes in the theoretical featurelist are not checked. So I encourage to give it a try with Wine (though requesting the refund is probably politically the better statement.)

By now I don't believe in Linux support, unless the game uses a cross-platform third party engine. And having entire platforms as a stretch goal is a clear sign of developers being too inexeprienced with cross-platform development to actually pull it off.

This goes double for city-builder games. These games thrive most, while they are not officially finished, so either they have Linux support from day 1, or even if they get it at the end, it won't matter anymore.

Regarding the cut features... Definitely disappointing, but it really is within expectations, given the nature of Kickstarter campaigns. Thankfully I purchased the game as-is based on an early-access review on PCGamer, so I didn't have specific expectations, so I'm probably not a fair reference though.


Last edited by Klaus on 9 July 2018 at 9:51 am UTC
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