NVIDIA have officially announced the GeForce RTX 2000 series of GPUs, launching September

Wow... I just took a short look at the keynote from Nvidia. Well... I tried. The amount of pretentiousness, scripted acting awkwardness and salesman bullshit is really unrivaled. Absolutely unnerving to watch.

I zapped around in it a bit. I came to the segment where they show yet another version of "RTX On/Off", or how I would call it: "It looks this shitty if you don't buy the latest GPU from us! The pictures are absolutely not faked, I swear!!1" They showed soft shadows in Tomb Raider. Point lights. RTX off: No shadows. RTX on: Soft shadows. From a point light. A fucking point light. A fucking tiny candle light in the hand of a child throws a big dark shadow in a (dimly) lighted environment, which is already on its own stupid, but it also throws a really soft shadow with big fuzzy edges. Way to go, Nvidia.

This is really what I meant before. You can have all the computing power you want. If you use it wrong, it will look like shit. Having those very pronounced and colorful shadows wobbling around the dancers in the scene is not how it would look. It's an effect turned up to 11. It looks stupid. And then they even manage it to demo an effect that isn't even physically correct: Soft shadows from a point light.

What a joke. A very expensive one.


Last edited by Doc Angelo on 21 August 2018 at 11:20 am UTC

Quoting: GuestI wouldn't buy a card which has mined. (Anyway miners are so greedy they try to sell their second hand cards at absurd prices so mining or not i am not interested.)

I think miners are aiming for the highest frequency at the lowest voltage, because that is how they make money. A gamer overclocks purely for the highest frequency, regardless how much power it will take. Shouldn't a used GPU from a miner be a better choice regarding electromigration?

Quoting: GuestAnd i doubt that many miners are tech savvy enough to undervolt correctly their cards. I know some are.

I bet if gamers can follow a guide to get more fps, a miner can follow a guide to get more money. I think money is a better incentive to maximize - in this case lower voltage, which doesn't cook any component of the card.

I'm fine with my GTX 780. IF I buy a new GPU, for sure it won't be an Nvidia one.

Quoting: Doc AngeloMany seem to be afraid of getting used cards that got overclocked. Personally, I think computer parts have no moving parts (fans excluded), so this rule doesn't really apply to them. They either work or not. Computer parts generally stall themselves if they get too hot. Is it known that GPUs die earlier if they are overclocked? I never heard about that. Are there sources?

Yeah check youtube budget channel focused F7GOS talks about how damaged a mining card could be and overclocking does damage the card long term because you are pushing it above its limits they arent set to the factory speed they are set to for shits and giggles.

I mine Ethereum on my two Fury's and I can't even get them to draw more than 190W when mining at full speed. They are rated for 260W and games will often have them draw well above 200W per card, so I'm not too concerned about mining affecting the longevity of my GPU's.

Usually I run them at 60-140W (depending on ambient room temperature) while mining due to noise and heat, and >140W the profit doesn't really increase much becouse of the diminishing returns in performance and increase in power consumption.

Miners who know what they are doing will not overclock. Most likely they will underclock instead, But then again, can you trust the miner selling his/her second hand card?


Last edited by Brisse on 21 August 2018 at 11:53 am UTC

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Yeah check youtube budget channel focused F7GOS talks about how damaged a mining card could be and overclocking does damage the card long term because you are pushing it above its limits they arent set to the factory speed they are set to for shits and giggles.

As I said, miners don't overvolt, they undervolt. As far as they can. That is the key point to make money with mining. Frequency alone doesn't kill anything as far as I know.

Quoting: TheRiddickYeah except there are no other real options, at least when you go past 1060GTX performance level!!!!!

When there is no alternatives then boycotts are VERY hard to do, your asking people to accept a more expensive and MUCH slower option (Vega)!!!!

Without forget polaris aka RX 480/RX 580 consume too much (around 180 to 200w) compared GTX 1060 with only 120w

Amd need seriously 7nm on gpus for improve consume

Back to RTX only wait to see nvidia said about RTX 2070 have a bit better performance than titan xp and other rumors around improvements on vulkan

However if have similar performance or a bit better of titan xp will be awesome because RTX 2070 only have 2304 shaders vs 3840 shaders of titan xp

^_^

Doing overclocking for a long time now, also with LN2, Dry Ice and phase change cooling.
From my experience, as long as the cooling matches the created heat all is fine. But users overclocking on air and cheap OEM parts risk the life of their components. Keep voltages low and usually all is fine.
However, watch out for the increased energy consumption.

Quoting: Doc Angelo

Quoting: Whitewolfe80Yeah check youtube budget channel focused F7GOS talks about how damaged a mining card could be and overclocking does damage the card long term because you are pushing it above its limits they arent set to the factory speed they are set to for shits and giggles.

As I said, miners don't overvolt, they undervolt. As far as they can. That is the key point to make money with mining. Frequency alone doesn't kill anything as far as I know.

Its not the voltage thats the problem its the 24/7 running until they stop working thats the problem now it can be minor and you can solve the issues by taking the card apart cleaning the gpu and applying fresh thermal paste and you could end up with fully fuctional card or you could end up with a card that keeps cutting out everytime you start to game.