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It was only recently that we picked up the news of both GTA III and Vice City getting a fully working reverse engineered game engine, along with plenty of upgrades. Sadly, and expectedly, it got nuked from orbit.

Even though it required you to own the game assets, so you would have needed to purchase a copy of either to use the re3 and reVC game reimplementations that wasn't enough to satisfy Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc., the parent company of Rockstar Games. They've now given it the DMCA treatment, with the main repository and all known forks at the time to be taken offline on GitHub.

Sad but fully expected. Big publishers really don't like these sorts of projects, even though they can help revive their older games and perhaps even get them more sales. Copyright and Intellectual Property Rights are a legal minefield at the best of times, so the only way we may get this treatment in future is a fully clean-room reimplementation more like OpenMW for Morrowind or OpenRA for classic Westwood RTS games.

Perhaps now someone can pick up OpenRW again.

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Tags: Game Engine, Misc
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I've found a mirror of the re3 git, but I'm unable to clone it.
git clone link.to.the.git.repo --branch master --single-branch
Cloning into 're3'...
fatal: early EOF
error: Unable to find 7185ba37b55bb8d199fb22043b0b83c2c153c1bd under link.to.the.git.repo
Cannot obtain needed blob 7185ba37b55bb8d199fb22043b0b83c2c153c1bd
while processing commit bf7280b55bffd568b00d5145f5799c7f73114ffc.
error: fetch failed.


Could anyone help?
tonR 22 Feb
Y'all think one of most fierce defender of loot box publishers will allowed their still valuable cash-cow franchise milked without getting their cuts?

These one of reasons why EA is no longer most hated game-related companies.
F.Ultra 23 Feb
Quoting: EagleDelta
Quoting: LibertyPaulMSaw this one coming. I hope Github doesn't get hate for this like they did with Youtube-dl. Github are not to blame for this, they have no choice but to comply with the awful DMCA

So, that's no actually true. I'll have to dig up the appropriate video, but a particular Business Lawyer clarified the DMCA provisions relating to takedowns. There is no requirement to takedown content from a DMCA request. All that provision does is protect the platform owner from liability on both sides. Basically, it protects hosts from being "caught in the middle" of a copyright dispute and facing a lawsuit from the organization requesting the takedown and from the users affected by the takedown.

But, as can be seen with a recent copyright case between Cox Communications and Sony Music, if a company doesn't actually comply with the DMCA takedown, they lose the immunity to lawsuits.... making them liable for an infringement by their users.

Yes if Github does not comply with every single DMCA takedown they will loose their safe harbour status and will instead be liable for every single thing that their end users upload to Github. So in practice Github have no choice but to comply.
Cyril 23 Feb
Quoting: tonRY'all think one of most fierce defender of loot box publishers will allowed their still valuable cash-cow franchise milked without getting their cuts?

These one of reasons why EA is no longer most hated game-related companies.

Isn't Capcom worse (Street Fighter V)?
liberodark 23 Feb
Source is available here :

https://paste.yunohost.org/iyusuloguk.scala


Last edited by liberodark on 23 February 2021 at 1:33 pm UTC
Quoting: liberodarkSource is available here :

redacted
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Thanks, cloning works correctly with the mirrors you posted (seems like there was something broken about the one I had found before).


Btw, if anyone needs the build instructions for Linux, they're available on the web archive.


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mirv 23 Feb
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Quoting: DoctorJunglist
Quoting: liberodark

So.....please don't post that stuff in the open, at least have the courtesy to keep it between yourselves. I like the site, and really don't want it involved in having to moderate more because some lawyer thinks it's a good idea to hit up the place (which is permissible under the laws of where GOL is located).

Really, please, don't ruin things for the rest of us.


Last edited by mirv on 23 February 2021 at 1:18 pm UTC
Quoting: mirv
Quoting: DoctorJunglist
Quoting: liberodark

So.....please don't post that stuff in the open, at least have the courtesy to keep it between yourselves. I like the site, and really don't want it involved in having to moderate more because some lawyer thinks it's a good idea to hit up the place (which is permissible under the laws of where GOL is located).

Really, please, don't ruin things for the rest of us.
I redacted my post.

I kept the archive.org link, because afaik this site operates in a legal manner.


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mirv 23 Feb
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Quoting: DoctorJunglist
Quoting: mirv
Quoting: DoctorJunglist
Quoting: liberodark

So.....please don't post that stuff in the open, at least have the courtesy to keep it between yourselves. I like the site, and really don't want it involved in having to moderate more because some lawyer thinks it's a good idea to hit up the place (which is permissible under the laws of where GOL is located).

Really, please, don't ruin things for the rest of us.
I redacted my post.

I kept the archive.org link, because afaik this site operates in a legal manner.

Cheers - to be absolutely clear I have no moral objections and really dislike the dmca slapdown to begin with, it's just a risk thing that I've seen go sour before.

And of course the great irony being that the project will be likely far more widely distributed now that it's made headlines and everyone will be looking for it. I have to wonder how many wouldn't have bothered had the takedown never been issued. Corporate never really learns.
crt0mega 23 Feb
Quoting: mirvAnd of course the great irony being that the project will be likely far more widely distributed now that it's made headlines and everyone will be looking for it.
Streisand effect ftw :D

Quoting: mirvCheers - to be absolutely clear I have no moral objections and really dislike the dmca slapdown to begin with, it's just a risk thing that I've seen go sour before.
While I don't think that they can do much harm with their DMCA in the UK, I'd also be ... cautious.
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