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No true next-gen Steam Deck for 'a few years' Valve say

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As expected really, Valve said they don't really expect to see a true next-gen Steam Deck for a few years yet. Speaking to Rock Paper Shotgun, it's clear Valve are very happy with the first year of the Steam Deck.

Talking to Valve's Lawrence Yang and engineer Pierre-Loup Griffais, it seems it has been blowing their minds. Something of a surprise though, even to me, is that Yang mentioned how they've noticed that "of the people who've purchased a Steam Deck, 42% of them end up spending the majority of their Steam gaming time on Steam Deck – preferring it over their other devices".

So not only is it still selling like tasty sugar-coated hot doughnuts, with it being in the top 10 of global sellers (based on revenue from SteamDB) where it's up against games shifting multiple millions, plenty of people are sticking with it and even shifting over to it.

One sticking point is more games coming out that don't perform well, and while the Steam Deck is impressive, it all depends on developers actually optimising for the hardware, as Griffais said "it'll depend on how developers approach it" and that "If high-end current-gen titles are able to scale to Deck and be a great experience, it also enables smoother performance on a wider variety of PCs, and improve the experience for the whole playerbase". Yang also mentioned how they've "seen a number of recently released demanding titles perform well on Steam Deck, due to developers targeting and testing on the device.".

As always, the problem is in numbers. If the Steam Deck continues selling well, developers won't be able to ignore it. I've seen many games perform brilliantly, even surprisingly so, when they've clearly had a lot of optimization done on them. Then I've also seen the opposite myself, with games that you would think would also work well simply don't (often these bigger AAA games that primarily seem to target consoles…).

When it comes to a true Steam Deck 2, we're clearly in for a wait, as Yang said "a true next-gen Deck with a significant bump in horsepower wouldn’t be for a few years".

Valve don't exactly need much to make the Steam Deck 2 a success — or do they?

Need some more games for Steam Deck? Check out the new Humble Heroines Bundle overview.

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Quoting: mr-victory
Quoting: BlackBloodRumSony royally screwed me over
Uhh, we have a PS3 (3xxx model, slim) and 2 Dualshock 3's, neither has failed yet but I heard horror stories from others. The PS3 is around 10 years old but used lightly. I also set up RPCS3 and that single PS1 game bought from PSN so I can keep playing on PC in the future.
That may be so, but it doesn't change my experiences. Life experiences are what make you who you are, and in this instance, this life experience put me off consoles.

I was a Linux user at the time (exclusive) and let's just say Linux gaming was hard to come by, so the consoles were my only method of gaming, thus quite heavily used.

Thankfully, that's changed and I can play almost any game I want on Linux now
melkemind Mar 10
It's interesting that Sony, a company that literally sells one of the major consoles, has made sure its PC ports are deck verified. I think they've set the standard that other companies should follow. It really doesn't require that much, just adequate graphics settings to turn down and lower-end hardware, something they should be doing for any PC game anyway.
Quoting: BlackBloodRumI do have a deck, well who doesn't
Anyone in Aus.... Since Valve are scared of Spiders and Snakes they still have not released the Steam Deck in Australia.......
elmapul Mar 11
i dont know where to post it, so it will be here:

according to vg charts:
ps1 has 2706 games.
ps2 has 3565 games
ps3 has 1904 games.
if you pick the ps3 model wich had backward compatibility, then the full catalog of PS3 at the end of the generation was 8175 titles.

Steam deck currently have 8147 (verified+playable) with an average of 20~26 games beind added each day.
in other words, in just a few days, it will be the platform with most games, even if we only count the games that received some form of Q/A!

SD already have more games than any Nintendo console, all sega consoles combined and Xbox Series (including an total backward comp with xbox, xbox 360, and xbox one), ps3 was the only one left!

now aside from mobile (where most game suck anyway) and old pcs that are hard to count the number of games (eg: pc98) linux is the thirdy platform with most games with some form of curation / QA.
and, if we count total games on steam it should soon surpass mac too.

if we count all games and not just verified+playable it do have more games than mac already (at least on steam)

as for consoles, keep in mind that vgcharts isnt perfect and their list of games is not perfect

Last edited by elmapul on 11 March 2023 at 4:10 am UTC
Smart move by Valve. Let the base of the original system continue to organically grow. Gain more dev support overtime, and keep the industry itself happy(similar to how the console manufacturers pace their hardware). The skies the limit and ultimately all of us Linux gamers win, as Proton support becomes a baseline in gaming.

Last edited by InhaleOblivion on 12 March 2023 at 3:39 am UTC
Appelsin Mar 11
Releasing a new Deck too soon would only hurt both the Deck and Valve (and by extension Linux gaming), since the people who already bought it will feel a bit cheated, it will create hardware fragmentation, and publishers/developers will be less likely to bother with it. Valve would seem like they got greedy, and pushed a not-proper-upgrade just for a quick cash grab. It is a very fine line to be walked here. They must convince game publishers that the deck is a stable and serious target, that will get and hold customers, while also convincing customers that the device will be relevant for long enough to feel like you didn’t just waste your money on an overhyped underpowered gaming tablet.

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whizse Mar 11
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Quoting: elmapulaccording to vg charts:
ps1 has 2706 games.
ps2 has 3565 games
ps3 has 1904 games.
if you pick the ps3 model wich had backward compatibility, then the full catalog of PS3 at the end of the generation was 8175 titles.
Keep in mind that many games are counted twice, or sometimes three times as it was re-released for different markets (US, PAL, Japan) so the actual numbers are quite a bit smaller!
Grogan Mar 11
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Steam can boast multiple tens of thousands of games, because most of them are crap. Stupid little indie knick knack games etc. I know one man's junk is another man's treasure, but that stuff inflates those numbers for the Steam platform :-)

P.S. When you look at it, GoG is even worse that way. The ratio of rudimentary crap (old and young) to desirable titles is much higher on GoG, for their numbers. Again, YMMV.

Last edited by Grogan on 11 March 2023 at 6:18 pm UTC
Grogan Mar 11
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Quoting: BlackBloodRumThe thing is, they don't have to target the hardware. They only need to ensure it works in proton or SteamOS (which, most of the work has already been done for them).

Even if the hardware changes, it doesn't break or change any of the developers previous or current on-going work.

I don't want to leave this hanging without acknowledgement. Of course that's right for the most part. The thing is, it's not me you have to convince.

First of all, customer disappointment. The clientele here is a bit different than iPhone customers lol

Secondly, right now they all have the same hardware and things are reproducible.

I'm sure I don't have to elabourate further, but these are more human conditions. Butthurt users, and devs that might throw up their arms and ridicule the platform for being so "unstable" (subject to change).
Lachu Mar 11
Quoting: KimyrielleI belong to the 58% who still plays mostly on the desktop, but I am not parting with my Deck. It has become the device for gaming on the sofa or in bed and filled a gap for me there (I don't own a "proper" console and don't want one). I am still surprised how many recent games it can run just fine (including Hogwarts Legacies). Yes, that's probably going to change in the next few years when newer GPU generations become more widespread, but I expect the Deck to run most if not all the games I am playing for years to come.

I do not own Deck, but I fully understood. I known many people, who do not upgrade/exchange one's PC, because these people are using mobiles (smartphones). They told me, they do not need PC. I do not understand these people - I prefer work near my desk with my laptop. I even like KDEConnect, because it allow me to read notifications from phone and do a lot of stuff, like composing sms on my laptop, etc. I own laptop, but I work on desk with it, seldom move it out my desk.
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