The RAM price and availability situation is going to worsen as Micron pull their Crucial consumer business

@Eike do you have a fairphone?

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ElectricPrism☑ Optical CD/DVD/HD/BluRay Drive on Laptops
☑ Ethernet Port in many cases gone necessitating USB-C Hub
☑ Anything outside a single USB-C

Not true. Have it in my laptop I bought this year.

Oh, you bought a notebook with an ODD this year? Regardless of ElectricPrism predictions those *are* becoming more and more scarce and harder to find. Did you bought it for gaming or office work? Was it good? Can you please tell the model?

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ElectricPrism☑ Removable Batteries on Laptops and Phones

Not true. Have it in my phone I bought this year.

Quoting: ElectricPrism☑ Removable MicroSD Storage on Phones

Not true. Have it in my phone I bought this year.

I'm not quite as inclined to a Total Doom prediction as ElectricPrism, but those two points up there specifically are at least extremely strong trends over the past, I dunno, five years or so? Sure, are are phones available with removeable batteries and MicroSD cards, but those have been becoming increasingly rare. I'm hoping the zeitgeist will turn back around eventually re: MicroSD in particular, but even brands and product lines which have historically been really good about that kind of stuff have ended up dropping it on their more recent models. Saying that features like that are entirely "gone" is probably overstating things slightly, but I know that my own phone selection pool has drastically shrunk since ten years ago.

Man alive. I built this pc I'm typing on like maybe 6 months ago, HOW LUCKY I FEEL RIGHT NOW ... !! Sure the gpu prices were/still are insane, but at least ram was still dirt cheap. WTF is this garbage I'm looking at right now ... $400 for a 32g kit? WHAT.

Glad I upgraded when I did. (2 yrs ago)

WHEN, not IF, the AI bubble bursts, gonna be a great time to do another upgrade. :)

Until then.. I could probably make a bundle selling half my memory. (have 4x32gb sticks in it)
hmmm...

I picked the wrong time to replace my 2016 PC build.

Kraft will presumably also end their consumer food business to focus on supplying hog farms. Drop the filthy poors to focus on profitable slop!

Fortunately I bought all my top end PC hardware before this all started.
Just going to sit back and watch the entire world burn, and it is going to burn with Nuclear FIRE!

Quoting: CanadianBlueBeerGlad I upgraded when I did. (2 yrs ago)

WHEN, not IF, the AI bubble bursts, gonna be a great time to do another upgrade. :)

Something else is going to burst at the same time, so you won't be buying anything when that happens. Think about it for a tiny second, the whole world invests into AI crap.. pours trillions of trillions into it, what do you think bursting will do, if it happened? minor upsets? no think well WELL north of major upset, we talking all missiles in the sky!


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Oh, you bought a notebook with an ODD this year? Regardless of ElectricPrism predictions those *are* becoming more and more scarce and harder to find. Did you bought it for gaming or office work? Was it good? Can you please tell the model?

Just playing with Google and there are still enough laptops being released with ODD that magazines are doing top 10 lists: [https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/laptop-with-cd-dvd-drives](https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/laptop-with-cd-dvd-drives)

But you are the others are still missing his point, his point is not that this kind of models are not becoming scarce, it was the notion of this not being "allowed".

Quoting: Trias

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ElectricPrism☑ Optical CD/DVD/HD/BluRay Drive on Laptops
☑ Ethernet Port in many cases gone necessitating USB-C Hub
☑ Anything outside a single USB-C

Not true. Have it in my laptop I bought this year.

Oh, you bought a notebook with an ODD this year? Regardless of ElectricPrism predictions those *are* becoming more and more scarce and harder to find. Did you bought it for gaming or office work? Was it good? Can you please tell the model?

Ah, sorry!

I should have edited the quote, it has multiple USB-C ports, not the other points.

Quoting: apocalyptech

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ElectricPrism☑ Removable Batteries on Laptops and Phones

Not true. Have it in my phone I bought this year.

Quoting: ElectricPrism☑ Removable MicroSD Storage on Phones

Not true. Have it in my phone I bought this year.

I'm not quite as inclined to a Total Doom prediction as ElectricPrism, but those two points up there specifically are at least extremely strong trends over the past, I dunno, five years or so? Sure, are are phones available with removeable batteries and MicroSD cards, but those have been becoming increasingly rare. I'm hoping the zeitgeist will turn back around eventually re: MicroSD in particular, but even brands and product lines which have historically been really good about that kind of stuff have ended up dropping it on their more recent models. Saying that features like that are entirely "gone" is probably overstating things slightly, but I know that my own phone selection pool has drastically shrunk since ten years ago.

I agree these are trends!

But, vinyl records vanishing was a trend, too. If enough people do want it, they sell us what we want.

I also find it funny to strange that AFAICT it is not too hard to get a phone with SD card slot - as long as you buy for say 200 bucks instead of 1000.

Quoting: mr-victory@Eike do you have a fairphone?

Yes. :)
The Motorola G-Whatever I had before hat removable battery and SD card slot as well though.

Gamers Nexus coverage: [youtube link](https://youtu.be/9A-eeJP0J7c)

Quoting: EikeIf enough people do want it, they sell us what we want.

Assuming that it's profitable, no matter the wants, or even the *needs* of consumers; and also assuming that possible satisfactions of such wants/needs can't be manipulated. In consumer electronics, 'products' are slowly turning into further 'revenue streams', or portals for indefinitely extended rentals.

For example -- "If enough people do want" ... perpetual licenses as opposed to subscriptions ... would "they sell us what [they] want"? They wouldn't, and they don't; and those smaller companies that do sell perpetual licenses weasel their way out of it the moment they get bought out.

As luxury/specialist items, vinyl players, or even penny farthings can be produced at smaller scales; what's at issue here is mass production at scale, of things that have everyday use -- things that you can't just "vote with your wallet" not to buy, because you *need* them; things that you can't get from the 'competition' ... because there's no competition when it comes to the large-scale trends like what we're seeing with electronics right now. 'Competition' is at best a short term illusion, when the model requires the bigger players to keep swallowing the smaller players, or at the very least constrain the possibilities with which they have to work.


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I went and checked. My 2x32gb sticks cost 290cdn. (580 for 2 packs)
Current price: 1150 per pack. 2300 for the 128gb. Almost 4 times the price.

(the gov will love it for the extra tax money)

ppbblltt!
:P