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I may not like Garry Newman, or his games, but I know they are important to some people. I thought it was worth highlighting this. I will keep my own personal thoughts out of it this time.

Garry Newman, FacepunchSomething to keep in mind regarding Linux support. We don't make the engine, Unity do. So there's only so much we can do. Any problems that come up we try to fix. The only times problems aren't fixed is if fixing something for Linux would break something on Windows. That's where the quote in twitter comes from.

The hard truth is, from our point of view, that linux isn't financially worth us developing for. We develop for linux because it's the right thing to do. That said, we're obviously doing a shitty job supporting linux though, so it seems like we'd be better off not supporting it at all than supporting it half assed. This is something we have to consider when deciding whether to release games for Linux in the future. At the moment I'm leaning towards not releasing Linux versions of our future games.


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Samsai 4 Dec, 2015
I say "meh". Garry is a bit of a one hit wonder and even that game hardly counts as a game. I don't think any of his future creations are going to interest me.
GNUzel 4 Dec, 2015
Garry's Mod is fine, but Rust never runs right for me. Bad frames, nowhere near equal support on Windows. Sometimes I think it's my video card (GTX 690) on Linux, but it can handle games like BioShock Infinite, Borderlands, Soma, and Spec Ops: The Line, just fine, to name a few, so I don't really think it's a case of Nvidia drivers. I wish Rust did run better, but I get random frame drops whenever I'm doing something important and it really hinders my experience, which forces me to either play Windows to have a good experience at 60+ FPS on max settings, or not at all.

I only get 5-10FPS on Rust Max settings, and 30 on "Simple" at a way lower resolution, on Linux.


Last edited by GNUzel on 4 December 2015 at 8:45 pm UTC
shigutso 4 Dec, 2015
I used to follow him on social media, now I just don't waste my time with him anymore.

Looks like he and his "crew" aren't good with Linux. And they will probably never be, because they are too used to Windows. I think they should hire Feral to build their Linux binaries.
Avehicle7887 4 Dec, 2015
Heard about Rust and Garry's Mod but not about the creator himself, hell only now I just made the 1 + 1 where the Garry's Mod name comes from. The way he's putting it, seems like the problem is between keyboard and chair.

Unity surely has its' flaws but there are countless games on Linux built with it and they run very good.
dubigrasu 4 Dec, 2015
In this light maybe we should be more grateful and helpful to devs that do and plan to support Linux, even when their games are not running perfectly at first.
mao_dze_dun 4 Dec, 2015
I wonder it it's possible for a news like that to not be followed by passive aggressive trolling... Guess not.
dnlbaines 4 Dec, 2015
I think Rust is a great game. The performance is bad on all platforms not just Linux and over the last few weeks they have made great improvements.

I don't feel there is a need for people to start putting him, his team or his games down purely because he said something "anti Linux".

As much as we all want to see more games coming to Linux the truth is right now there is very little money to be made for the cost. This will hopefully improve but it is the truth.

He is actually making a very valid point in that if something is going to have Linux support it should have good support and so I respect his decision fully.

That said I would love to see his and his teams future games on Linux and hope that a growing market share and improved support from engines such as Unity will change his mind.

We are a great community, but I do get somewhat upset when people make negative comments about things purely because of a lack of Linux support or a statement made against Linux. We should be a friendly and thankful community as otherwise there is even less of a reason for anyone to bring their games to Linux.
Xelancer 4 Dec, 2015
Nobody is forcing developers to support Tux, if its too hard then I/we forgive them.

That said;

- Linux gamers suffer less from 'casual gamer'-itus.
- Were much more willing to problem solve and much more invested in what we spend our time on.
- This too reflects in our collective maturity, wisdom and disposable income.

Knowing your target market - first rule of any business - means that developers who make games we collectively LIKE will undoubtedly shine through in more positive reviews/feedback.
Kyrottimus 4 Dec, 2015
As far as I've experienced, Rust runs pretty well (playable), and I find it a fun game (though can be frustrating too).

I run Rust on 1920x1080 on the "GOOD" graphics setting (with Vignetting and Depth of Field turned off) and it runs between 25-45fps. Very playable, obviously not the best but the FPS shoots up if I dumb the settings down, but I like some Eye-Candy.

My system is pretty decent, still rockin the 4GB GTX 760 and Core i5-4690 w/ 16GB of DDR3 system RAM on MInt 17.2 64bit.

But I agree, maybe Linux will be more profitable if people put more effort into developing for it. Not just to "make it work," but to understand and have a some practical experience using Linux beyond the level of novice.

Still, one of these days, we'll have some forward-thinking developer make a totally kickass game only for Linux/SteamOS as an exclusive title.

Hey, I can dream, right?


Last edited by Kyrottimus on 4 December 2015 at 9:50 pm UTC
Xylemon 4 Dec, 2015
Quoting: maodzedunI wonder it it's possible for a news like that to not be followed by passive aggressive trolling... Guess not.

God forbid anyone criticize the "great" Garry Newman.
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