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Microsoft Teams is now available on Linux

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Available in public preview, Microsoft just added Linux support for their unified communication and collaboration platform Microsoft Teams.

Starting today, Microsoft Teams is available for Linux users in public preview, enabling high quality collaboration experiences for the open source community at work and in educational institutions. Users can download the native Linux packages in .deb and .rpm formats here. We are constantly improving based on community feedback, so please download and submit feedback based on your experience.

The Microsoft Teams client is the first Office app that is coming to Linux desktops, and will support all of Teams’ core capabilities. Teams is the hub for teamwork that brings together chat, video meetings, calling, and collaboration on Office 365 documents and business processes within a single, integrated experience.

Marissa Salazar, Microsoft

This isn't just appearing out of nowhere though, Microsoft has been working with select companies (like Volvo Cars) over the course of a few months with the Linux client of Teams. It seems there was enough interest to bring it over to Linux. Sounds like a similar story with Unity, when they officially announced the Linux Editor being in Preview a few months ago due to increasing demand. You can find the official announcement here.

Not gaming news of course but we do often cover lots of Linux-related cool stuff. It's good to see Microsoft begin to slowly change and accept Linux, even using it themselves and integrating it into Windows with the Windows Subsystem for Linux.

Heck, even their new web browser Edge is going to be coming to Linux. Every step like this, brings down another barrier for developers of all kinds using Linux, don't underestimate the importance of it.

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Shmerl 10 December 2019 at 9:41 pm UTC
Anyway, do we need to care about Teams? Just another proprietary, non federated, walled garden IM service, that's not solving but proliferating the problem of IM fragmentation. Matrix is much better approach.


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Liam Dawe 10 December 2019 at 9:47 pm UTC
ShmerlAnyway, do we need to care about Teams? Just another proprietary, non federated, walled garden IM service, that's not solving but proliferating the problem of IM fragmentation. Matrix is much better approach.
Yes, we do need to care. Same as we need to care about any application/game a lot of people use, that isn't available easily on Linux. Every single one is a barrier that can prevent people from sticking with Linux. We can make as many big steps on performance, ease of install and updating and so on - all junk unless what people want and regularly use is on Linux. Steps like this are important. Anyone who disagrees, frankly has their head firmly in a bubble.
kaiman 10 December 2019 at 9:53 pm UTC
fleskI'm not a .NET developer, so I'm not an authority on the subject, but I know our Microsoft teams are developing most of their applications with .NET Core deployed on Linux these days, so I assume it has most/all of the features that .NET has.
.NET Core 2 had probably about 90% of the .NET Framework features and was mostly missing Windows-centric stuff, like the user interface bits and pieces. They've implemented those on top of NET Core 3 now, but they're still Windows only. Mostly, I guess, because the .NET Framework proper will no longer see any (major) new (language) features, so .NET Core is the only path forward. But they're also going to drop "Core" and simply call the next version .NET 5. But I don't expect that to be truly cross-platform either.
Shmerl 10 December 2019 at 9:54 pm UTC
Liam DaweYes, we do need to care. Same as we need to care about any application/game a lot of people use, that isn't available easily on Linux. Every single one is a barrier that can prevent people from sticking with Linux. We can make as many big steps on performance, ease of install and updating and so on - all junk unless what people want and regularly use is on Linux. Steps like this are important. Anyone who disagrees, frankly has their head firmly in a bubble.

As a Linux user, I actually find such examples damaging. I look at the IM situation globally, and it's not a Linux specific issue. E-mail managed to push through the federated approach, and only because it happened years ago, we are now lucky we can send e-mail from any server to any server.

IM is a horror story in comparison. Walled garden servers and services grow like mushrooms, and almost none of them can talk to each other. Attempts to advance federated approaches (XMPP and now Matrix) are met with total indifference from the greedy owners of the walled options.


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BielFPs 10 December 2019 at 10:07 pm UTC
ShmerlIt's not really about the money (DirectX). It's about controlling the developers, i.e. mindshare. As long as developers are stuck with MS lock-in, it's costly for them to release anything for other platforms. I.e. it's not like MS will get less money if they would, but their competitors will get more benefits, and that they don't want. It's a dirty anti-competitive tactic.

Yes, which is why Phil Spencer is "right" in the business point of view for defending MS lock-in (even if it's bad for anyone else).

Now if we talk about Apple, I think they were stupid to come with an exclusive api without having a big base of developers already using it before.
Shmerl 10 December 2019 at 10:25 pm UTC
BielFPsYes, which is why Phil Spencer is "right" in the business point of view for defending MS lock-in (even if it's bad for anyone else).

Now if we talk about Apple, I think they were stupid to come with an exclusive api without having a big base of developers already using it before.

Anti-competitive tricks is not the right way to do business. It's the dirty way. I.e. proper way is competition on merit. In fact, anti-competitive behavior should be prevented by proper anti-trust (competition laws), because it's damaging to the progress and market in general.

And yes, I agree Apple are even worse. They are one of the most disgusting examples of lock-in proponents today.
WorMzy 10 December 2019 at 10:25 pm UTC
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WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.
gustavoyaraujo 10 December 2019 at 10:40 pm UTC
Nice, but they could port Direct X to linux hahaha
Purple Library Guy 10 December 2019 at 11:47 pm UTC
WorMzy
Cyril
WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.
I too can't stand Gnome3. So instead I use Mate and occasionally Cinnamon . . . both of which, I believe, use gtk3. So I feel you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater there.
Cyril 11 December 2019 at 12:41 am UTC
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WorMzy
Cyril
WorMzyMeh, uses gtk3. I'll keep running teams at work on a Windows client.

Why you don't like GTK3? What would you prefer instead?

Mostly historical reasons -- I'm still bitter that the gnome devs just unceremoniously threw gnome2 out the window and said that everyone should use the monstrosity that is gnome3 instead.
I also particularly don't like Gnome devs hostile attitude towards end users who don't want to use their defaults, their tendency to break themes every six months (allegedly they've stopped doing this now?), and them telling application devs that they should only have code for gtk/gnome-specific "features" (instead of coding for multiple DEs), etc..

What I prefer instead is anything that isn't gtk3. Like I said, I'd rather run a Windows application than a native Linux gtk3 app.
I too can't stand Gnome3. So instead I use Mate and occasionally Cinnamon . . . both of which, I believe, use gtk3. So I feel you're throwing out the baby with the bathwater there.

Yeah sorry WorMzy but I fail to understand why you don't like GTK3 itself. GTK2/3 and Gnome2/3 are different things.
Just because you hate the Gnome devs, you hate GTK3 too?

I hate the Gnome 3 desktop too (it feel like a tablet or something, so boring to not have many configurations available at start etc), I use XFCE. But maybe I don't know some important things about it, and I'm not a dev myself.
Or rather, why Qt is better than GTK3?
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