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For those of you sticking with the stable channel of Steam Play's Proton system, Valve have today rolled out all the recent beta changes for everyone.

Previously, you had access to Proton 3.7-3 which was what everyone used by default and you could also use the "Compatibility tool" dropdown in the Steam Play options section to switch to a beta to have the latest updates. Valve must now consider all the changes stable enough, as Proton 3.7-6 is now the default. There's another beta channel now, which is still currently at 3.7-6 but it should remain where the latest changes go.

There's quite a lot of improvements included since the initial release, like: automatic mouse capturing in fullscreen windows by default, performance improvements, certain game compatibility improvements, an updated build of DXVK, more display resolution support and so on. You can see the full changelog here.

If you missed them, we had an interview with the creator of DXVK which is part of Steam Play's Proton and an interview with Linux game porter Ethan Lee recently. We will have another article up having a chat with a few developers about it all in a few days. Given that we're approaching the weekend, it will probably be early next week. We have some interesting people lined up for it, stay tuned.

It's really fun to watch it progress, I'm pretty excited personally to see how it evolves over the next year. It's still early days, but it has been rather promising so far. How have you all been finding it so far? What has been your biggest surprise with it? Let us know in the comments.

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Hori 14 September 2018 at 1:53 pm UTC
jarhead_h
SwiftpawI just want to know if the Wine fruit is hanging low enough now that any game developers who previously haven't supported us are starting to plan on officially supporting Linux via that path, such as Bethesda and id software. Bring on that tux/SteamOS icon so we can throw them our bux!

I don't agree with this. I am Valve's biggest cheerleader in this project, but I am absolutely against the idea of giving Proton the Linux/SteamOS icon. Perhaps a brand new Proton icon is in order, but the SteamOS icon should be reserved strictly for native ports only. The two should remain separate if only to make everybody stop and realize just how much work is going into this. I like the warning signs telling the user that this is running on SteamPlay. First the public pressure will be on the publishers to put in the token effort to help Valve get their game working. Then the pressure will be on native ports with only the worst devs relying on Proton which should be pretty close to a native experience by that point. But the two need to remain separate for that to happen.

As for the current state of Proton, there are a bunch of games that still require special launch options and I believe we need to find some efficient way to document that and keep that documentation current. But more to the point we need to keep track of the growing list of titles that just work, because seamless integration is the point here. The point of this is not to have to hassle with wine prefixes and such. I have no doubt Valve will keep this going until we get there, but until then we need to do our part.
Steam is a store. Customers don't care what Proton is and whether a game uses it or not. Those icons indicate whether a game is available on a specific OS or not. I strongly believe that proton games should have it.
On top of it, Valve already said that they will, once Steam Play is out of Beta.
Hori 14 September 2018 at 2:33 pm UTC
lucifertdark
Krogan86Do you guys know if Elder scrolls online works with Proton ?
I really want to play this game.
Elder Scroll Online reports are hit or miss, it looks like it'll depend on your hardware if you can get it running or not, I don't have it so can't say for definite.
Some say it works, some say it doesn't. When I last tried it in Wine it worked on my 1080 but with graphical glitches. Idk about Proton. Just try and see. To avoid downloading it again you can copy your Windows installation (if you have one) in your steamapps/common folder and the metadata file and then start a game cache integrity check. That's what I did for DOOM and it worked beautifully without redownloading anything more than a little over 1gb.
Dunc 14 September 2018 at 3:30 pm UTC
FeistHowever, if there´s even the *slightest* chanse that one or more of them will get a native port at some point, I´d naturally abstain from buying until I can buy native.
You can't go wrong with my five-year rule. Set a shorter “quarantine” period if you can't wait that long.

I have to admit though, I am tempted by a few titles that will almost certainly never have native ports. The fact that Proton counts as a Linux sale makes a difference, I think. It doesn't help the porters obviously, so like you I'll still give games that have any chance of being ported a wide berth (I'm a fan of driving games, and Codemasters have been a fairly safe bet in the past, for example), but I feel less bad about handing over money to the likes of Bethesda now that they'll know it's not just another Windows sale.
ewertonurias 14 September 2018 at 5:42 pm UTC
Steam Play

With this I bought games that I hadn't played for years:

-Bioshock;
-Bioshock 2;
-Borderlands;
-Cuphead;
-GTA San Andreas;
-The Last Remnant;
-Spore;
-The Witcher -Enhanced Edition-;
-Worms Armageddon;
-Worms Ultimate Mayhem.

All working perfectly with my Desktop NVIDIA!

I'm still selecting more games to buy

Many thanks to those responsible for this! Continue!
Cyba.Cowboy 15 September 2018 at 6:55 am UTC
TemplarGRNo Feral port, no money. At some point, we need to support those who support us, dude. I love the Tomb Raider reboot games but won't play Shadow without a native port, unless 3 or more years pass and Feral decides not to port it.

This.

They've already ported the first two games, so it's pretty likely they'll port the third game at some point... I don't like the fact that they're (the reboot "Tomb Raider" games) not on GOG.com, but I'll absolutely buy the other two games because Feral look after us, so the least I can do is look after them, by purchasing a full-price copy of the second and third games (with only rare exceptions, I refuse to purchase Linux games at a discount)(unfortunately, I was still-booting when I bought the first game though!).


Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy at 15 September 2018 at 7:12 am UTC
wojtek88 15 September 2018 at 7:52 am UTC
ewertonuriasSteam Play

With this I bought games that I hadn't played for years:

-Bioshock;
-Bioshock 2;
-Borderlands;
-Cuphead;
-GTA San Andreas;
-The Last Remnant;
-Spore;
-The Witcher -Enhanced Edition-;
-Worms Armageddon;
-Worms Ultimate Mayhem.

All working perfectly with my Desktop NVIDIA!

I'm still selecting more games to buy

Many thanks to those responsible for this! Continue!
Worms Armageddon is working perfectly for you? In fullscreen? I couldn't even switch resolution from default one (640×480)...

Cyba.Cowboy
TemplarGRNo Feral port, no money. At some point, we need to support those who support us, dude. I love the Tomb Raider reboot games but won't play Shadow without a native port, unless 3 or more years pass and Feral decides not to port it.

This.

They've already ported the first two games, so it's pretty likely they'll port the third game at some point... I don't like the fact that they're (the reboot "Tomb Raider" games) not on GOG.com, but I'll absolutely buy the other two games because Feral look after us, so the least I can do is look after them, by purchasing a full-price copy of the second and third games (with only rare exceptions, I refuse to purchase Linux games at a discount)(unfortunately, I was still-booting when I bought the first game though!).
In theory I agree with you guys. Feral is a company, that we owe most of the AAA titles. We need to support them as much as possible.
But...
Without clear agenda of releases it's not ok to expect from us that we're not going to buy new games, that just works, because they may have port in next 2 or 3 years.
We need to adapt to new reality, so as Feral.
I also don't like "No Tux, no Bucks" approach for Proton titles at the moment. Valve invested money in Proton / Wine / DXVK. Now very often I read that people are going to use Steam Play only for titles that they already have in their libraries. Personally I think this is the worst approach that you can imagine. Of course while testing Proton that's fine, but when it's released, only buying new titles that are meant to be run on Proton will generate real money return for Valve's investment.
Sure, we can buy 3 years old titles to achieve that, but very often 10 titles that are 3-5 years old will cost less than just released game.

So maybe it's good idea to buy few titles that are not so old and run well with Proton instead of writing everywhere "No Tux, no Bucks".
Smoke39 15 September 2018 at 10:00 am UTC
wojtek88
Cyba.Cowboy
TemplarGRNo Feral port, no money. At some point, we need to support those who support us, dude. I love the Tomb Raider reboot games but won't play Shadow without a native port, unless 3 or more years pass and Feral decides not to port it.

This.

They've already ported the first two games, so it's pretty likely they'll port the third game at some point... I don't like the fact that they're (the reboot "Tomb Raider" games) not on GOG.com, but I'll absolutely buy the other two games because Feral look after us, so the least I can do is look after them, by purchasing a full-price copy of the second and third games (with only rare exceptions, I refuse to purchase Linux games at a discount)(unfortunately, I was still-booting when I bought the first game though!).
In theory I agree with you guys. Feral is a company, that we owe most of the AAA titles. We need to support them as much as possible.
But...
Without clear agenda of releases it's not ok to expect from us that we're not going to buy new games, that just works, because they may have port in next 2 or 3 years.
We need to adapt to new reality, so as Feral.
I also don't like "No Tux, no Bucks" approach for Proton titles at the moment. Valve invested money in Proton / Wine / DXVK. Now very often I read that people are going to use Steam Play only for titles that they already have in their libraries. Personally I think this is the worst approach that you can imagine. Of course while testing Proton that's fine, but when it's released, only buying new titles that are meant to be run on Proton will generate real money return for Valve's investment.
Sure, we can buy 3 years old titles to achieve that, but very often 10 titles that are 3-5 years old will cost less than just released game.

So maybe it's good idea to buy few titles that are not so old and run well with Proton instead of writing everywhere "No Tux, no Bucks".
Valve doesn't care which or how many games you buy, they only care how much you spend. They get the same cut either way if you spend $60 on one Windows game or 6 ten-dollar Linux games. The purpose of Proton isn't to drive sales per se, it's to make Linux a more credible threat to Microsoft. If Proton emboldens someone to uninstall Windows, or to just use it less, or to try Linux for the first time, those are all big returns on Valve's investment, even if they never buy another Windows game.

I'm not necessarily saying you should never buy newer Windows games to play on Proton -- it's up to everyone to choose how strict they wanna be about supporting Linux devs -- I'm just saying you don't need to overthink "repaying" Valve for Proton.
wojtek88 15 September 2018 at 11:30 am UTC
Smoke39
wojtek88
Cyba.Cowboy
TemplarGRNo Feral port, no money. At some point, we need to support those who support us, dude. I love the Tomb Raider reboot games but won't play Shadow without a native port, unless 3 or more years pass and Feral decides not to port it.

This.

They've already ported the first two games, so it's pretty likely they'll port the third game at some point... I don't like the fact that they're (the reboot "Tomb Raider" games) not on GOG.com, but I'll absolutely buy the other two games because Feral look after us, so the least I can do is look after them, by purchasing a full-price copy of the second and third games (with only rare exceptions, I refuse to purchase Linux games at a discount)(unfortunately, I was still-booting when I bought the first game though!).
In theory I agree with you guys. Feral is a company, that we owe most of the AAA titles. We need to support them as much as possible.
But...
Without clear agenda of releases it's not ok to expect from us that we're not going to buy new games, that just works, because they may have port in next 2 or 3 years.
We need to adapt to new reality, so as Feral.
I also don't like "No Tux, no Bucks" approach for Proton titles at the moment. Valve invested money in Proton / Wine / DXVK. Now very often I read that people are going to use Steam Play only for titles that they already have in their libraries. Personally I think this is the worst approach that you can imagine. Of course while testing Proton that's fine, but when it's released, only buying new titles that are meant to be run on Proton will generate real money return for Valve's investment.
Sure, we can buy 3 years old titles to achieve that, but very often 10 titles that are 3-5 years old will cost less than just released game.

So maybe it's good idea to buy few titles that are not so old and run well with Proton instead of writing everywhere "No Tux, no Bucks".
Valve doesn't care which or how many games you buy, they only care how much you spend. They get the same cut either way if you spend $60 on one Windows game or 6 ten-dollar Linux games. The purpose of Proton isn't to drive sales per se, it's to make Linux a more credible threat to Microsoft. If Proton emboldens someone to uninstall Windows, or to just use it less, or to try Linux for the first time, those are all big returns on Valve's investment, even if they never buy another Windows game.

I'm not necessarily saying you should never buy newer Windows games to play on Proton -- it's up to everyone to choose how strict they wanna be about supporting Linux devs -- I'm just saying you don't need to overthink "repaying" Valve for Proton.
In general we agree. But you talk now only about long time plan.

We, as Linux gamers, do not apply to long time plan, as we are already on board, Microsoft decisions won't hurt the marketshare we provide.

So there are 2 ways that we can support Valve at the moment:
1) Buy games on Steam directly. No matter if it is Linux native, proton based, EON wrapped, wine wrapped version.
2) Talk to our friends and recommend them to try Linux.

My problem is, that I personally won't do #2 as it was always problematic for me. There were several issues - I convinced teacher in my family to switch to Ubuntu.
After one month she was complaining about not working copy / paste, printing in Word under Wine which was a blocker (seriously).
My girlfriend had problems with Photoshop. Few colleagues resigned because of missing games (all this was around 2013 when I was doing final switch).

So I recommend we do buy games
Cyba.Cowboy 15 September 2018 at 3:47 pm UTC
Smoke39The purpose of Proton isn't to drive sales per se, it's to make Linux a more credible threat to Microsoft. If Proton emboldens someone to uninstall Windows, or to just use it less, or to try Linux for the first time, those are all big returns on Valve's investment, even if they never buy another Windows game.

The obvious purpose of Proton is to push Steam Machines and SteamOS... If all (or the majority of) Windows games "just work" under SteamOS, then there's even less reasons for Steam users to be using a Microsoft Windows-based operating system and more reason for them to be using SteamOS - which means more direct control/influence of PC gamers by Valve Software.

Realistically, SteamOS in its current state is a solution suitable only for Linux fanboys... With Proton, well it's potentially something that could compete directly with PCs and every console on the market.

That's an awfully big slice of the gaming pie that any company with half a brain would like a piece of...


Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy at 15 September 2018 at 3:50 pm UTC
Projectile Vomit 15 September 2018 at 5:39 pm UTC
I love Proton! I really hope the developers are able to see how many Linux users are enjoying Proton. Yay, Skyrim and Neverwinter (the MMO- yes, NWN Enhanced is amazing, as well, but it works native, which is great, but that's not what this conversation is about, so...)!

I have also started checking out the free to play games that I couldn't play before. Path Of Exile is pretty damn cool, if you're into MMORPG-types. It has a very Diabloesque look and feel to it.
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