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as most of you I buy many games that are released for Linux. I buy them mostly directly from Steam store or from Feral store. But I have to say that recently I started to feel that game prices are going high, really really high.
I started to see the problem when 3 games from Warhammer 40000: Dawn of War II series were released. 7,6 and 5 years old games were priced for 20 euro each. For me it was the uh-oh moment.
But let's proceed.
Right now newest games on Steam are super expensive.
In my country (Poland) this starts to be a serious issue (at least for me and few people I know and that are buying a lot of games). About 2 years ago newest games were like 20 euros cheaper.
Let's take a look on a game that is on front page of store (it is not game that supports Linux, but is very good to show how ridiculous prices ar right now):
http://store.steampowered.com/app/292730/
Base version of game costs 60 euro, but "Deluxe version" is 100 euro. It's funny, the price of the game (in digital version) is almost the same as it is on PS Store, so a store of a games for a console...
But still, let's proceed.
I've just analyzed some mails from Valve and found out something really really bad.
I've added to wishlist Trine 3 some time ago. And what have I seen?
- 20.10 mail with sale:
- 27.10 mail with sale:
- 18.11 store price without sale:
Sorry, but this is just terrible...
And last problem I see - quality of the sales.
I hope Valve will prove me wrong on Black Friday, but last 2 years I've seen same titles with prices even the same or almost bigger than it was last time. Of course few titles were attractive, but still - most of the time there is no super deal.
I'm not going to say I will stop to buy games on Steam store, but from now I will think multiple times before I buy a game.
What I wanted to do is to hear your opinion. Is it the same for your country? What do you think in general about current prices and sales on Steam?
I saw the same for a dedaelic game and it looked way too high. Then I discovered that it was the price for the "Dedaelic Armageddon Bundle"
I want to show my support for Feral, but this is a serious challenge. :-(
It does not cost 59.99 at all.
That's also something that I am interested in - I assume such a product do not support feral, because it is Windows key. But maybe it should be changed - if someone buys a product on disk and activates it on Linux and plays on Linux it should be treated in a different way.
When you buy through Steam, Valve gets the money and gives it out to people based on where the game was bought from and where it was played on (allegedly). In case of the aforementioned Deus Ex, that would be Square and Feral, or perhaps just Square with a note that some of it is due to Feral.
When you buy it in a shop, the money goes to the shop. The shop had previously bought the game from the local publisher, who remember was publishing a Windows game, or a local distributor, who probably got the money way in advance of you buying the game and activating it on Steam. The chain from you to the publisher to Square is completely broken here and there is no way to track the sale as a Linux one.
The price on the Paradox site is 42€. Should I buy or should I not?
In this case the answer is not so obvious for one reason - Linux version of the game is not done by a 3rd party. So even if you buy Windows key you support the same publisher, so there is not problem of "money goes to wrong company" like it is when you buy a Windows key of game published to Linux by Feral/Aspyr/VP.
On the other side - as it was written before - this probably won't be counted as Linux sale, and because of that Linux copies number will be lower. Lower Linux copies amount -> lower market -> less titles available on our platform.
I just hope that Steam will start to bring to companies some stats of what platform is the game played on for last month / year or whatever and how long do those players play. It would make our lives better for sure.
While I love Paradox for porting all their newer games over to Linux, they are one of the worse for doing DLC...
But as the original post said, there is the issue of charging 20 for games that are 5+ years old. The thing is, they're not old for Linux users, and there is also the problem of Steam's 'Buy once, run everywhere' which is AWESOME for consumers, crappy for porting houses that release older games.
I'm thinking they mostly just get paid by the original publishers in the hope that they'll get more sales. Guess one of the Feral guys would have to chime in here. I mean if I had the Dawn of War games forever via humble bundle or wherever I got them, but haven't played them yet, but then fire them up on Linux, will they get paid for them?
Or do they just get a lump sum? I would guess they were released for Linux to bring some new users to be excited for Dawn of War III, hopefully that gets a port as well.
For the record, I was suckered into buying the higher tier of Pillars of Eternity, more to give Obsidian / Paradox more money to make more games!
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The higher prices you mention look like the regular German/western European prices... you guys in eastern Europe are just lucky that you can get games really cheap on Steam (basically subsidized by German gamers :p ).
In some other countries it is even more crazy, for example in the Philippines every game is basically 75% off all the time, and during sales you get an additional discount like everyone else (so top quality games often only cost less than a 1€). The downside is that some games are region locked, so you can only used them if you log into your steam account in south-east Asia. And before you ask: no it has gotten pretty difficult & risky to fake being in a cheap country via a VPN/proxy or such (in the Philippines you need to link your account to a local mobile phone for example).
Anyway, I've never seen game price in zloty on Steam, GOG introduced it few months ago, but never heard about Steam doing it.
From my perspective buying games from other regions via VPN in order to pay 1 euro for it if it is super expensive for your region is not better than stealing it. Just my opinion.
I am mad that the prices of the digital copies of games are expensive in general. But it does not mean I feel that it is ok to cheat developer and pay price that is not for you.
The other topic is - why the same product in digital version (so with no obvious additional costs) has so different prices for different regions.
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You are probably referring to the recently again more common term "central Europe", but this term is highly disputed and usually used by people with a historically revisionist agenda. And especially for Poland I would be careful with it, as in Germany people basically only use the term central Europe in the sense of "since Germany is the center of Europe" it should also decide most things or (mostly for older people) in the sense of "most of Poland (and the Baltics) is actually Germany and we should get the these territories back from them".
Both are quite right-wings positions I don't agree with... but especially as someone from Poland I would be careful using the same terms as those groups mentioned above.
Edit: I am surprised Poland even allows prices to be displayed in anything other than their legal currency. Most sovereign countries forbid this with good reasons (mainly to avoid parallel currencies not under their control). How it the VAT displayed in the checkout? Is Steam seriously displaying Polish tax payments in euros?
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The term itself sounds innocent enough of course, and thus you can easily hide your true intentions behind it, with naive voters not even realizing what the term entails historically speaking.
I am not really for banning certain expressions and so on, but if they are consistently used by certain interested groups to downplay and hide their actual agenda, I think it is worth considering to not play into their hands by arguing through using the same terms (as that becomes both confusing and since language forms thoughts, one can easily get into the situation where the argument is totally framed by forces you don't want to have that power).
Regarding price in Euro - I'm not a lawyer - I'm not 100% sure if it's legal or not.