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Title: Wine "PBA" - A new project for better Direct3D over OpenGL
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Xpander 1 Mar 2018
Compiled the patches also and tested GW2, Battlerite and Warhammer Online agaist regular 2.21 staging

System: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X 3.92Ghz, 32GB DDR4 2800CL14, GTX 1070, nvidia drivers 390.25

GW2:
without patches: 25-50 FPS
pba patched: 45-70 FPS

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Battlerite:
without patches: 45-70 FPS
pba patched: 60-90 FPS

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Warhammer Online:
Didnt work with the pba patches, character rendered but all world was just black

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coeseta 1 Mar 2018
Specs: i7 [email protected], 32GB DDR3 RAM, MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X+, nvidia drivers 390.25

Did some tests in Lions Arch. the performance improved definitely. It went from ~25fps up to ~40fps on high settings. In other areas I have up to 120fps

Resolution: 1920*1080
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Avehicle7887 1 Mar 2018
Quoting: coesetaSpecs: i7 [email protected], 32GB DDR3 RAM, MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X+, nvidia drivers 390.25

Did some tests in Lions Arch. the performance improved definitely. It went from ~25fps up to ~40fps on high settings. In other areas I have up to 120fps

Resolution: 1920*1080
Impressive, which build did you use?

@Xpander: Does Battlerite render correctly with those patches? Game looks interesting might give it a try :-)
coeseta 2 Mar 2018
I used the wine version you posted here.

Quoting: Avehicle7887...
If you wish to give this build a try I uploaded it to my google drive: [Download Link](https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TdFwaZ7juoiPawa9d2TCz3i7xZ9vswmR)
...

Or do you mean if I use Gw2 32bit or 64bit? It is 64bit if that answers your question :)

Or do you actually mean ingame. On my main, which is a necro, I am still on power reaper because that is fun for regular pve and dungeons imo. Though I have 15 chars of which are 11 fully equipped with ascended gear and some legendaries. On those I have most meta builds like chrono, condi beastmaster, heal druid, dragonhunter,... you name it ^^

Btw do you know if there is some kind of GoL or Linux guild? :)
Xpander 2 Mar 2018
Quoting: Avehicle7887@Xpander: Does Battlerite render correctly with those patches? Game looks interesting might give it a try :-)
didn't see any graphical issues, but i only tested one map. Its quite a fun game and runs good also. It ran fairly fine without the patches also, just bigger action with more spelleffects dropped the framerate, but with pba patches it drops way less

about guild wars 2, i didnt try Lions Arch, just some random map and there was some live event next to me which with regular wine dropped fps down to 25 fps (about 10-15 people size event)

and yeah i used 64bit executable as well and my resolution for all these games is 2560x1440, even though that doesnt matter much i guess for those games as i didnt see GPU usage go above 60%
coeseta 2 Mar 2018
I tested it in Lions Arch because you usually have the lowest FPS there :)
Avehicle7887 2 Mar 2018
Quoting: coesetaI used the wine version you posted here.

Quoting: Avehicle7887...
If you wish to give this build a try I uploaded it to my google drive: [Download Link](https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TdFwaZ7juoiPawa9d2TCz3i7xZ9vswmR)
...

Or do you mean if I use Gw2 32bit or 64bit? It is 64bit if that answers your question :)

Or do you actually mean ingame. On my main, which is a necro, I am still on power reaper because that is fun for regular pve and dungeons imo. Though I have 15 chars of which are 11 fully equipped with ascended gear and some legendaries. On those I have most meta builds like chrono, condi beastmaster, heal druid, dragonhunter,... you name it ^^

Btw do you know if there is some kind of GoL or Linux guild? :)
I meant, where did you get the Wine build from, I read lutris is providing new builds regularly.
coeseta 2 Mar 2018
I usually simply use PoL to manage my wine versions/bottles but for this test I downloaded the build you provided :)

[This one](https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TdFwaZ7juoiPawa9d2TCz3i7xZ9vswmR)
Xpander 3 Mar 2018
Those who want to build it for Arch, Antergos or Manjaro can grab the package here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1qgsnoRqonmfTkBdmfbWm-MnqSmqAayhw

just run makepkg

or if you dont have dependecies installed

makepkg -ci

World of Warcraft Testing:

Questing Legion content 50-150 FPS, mostly around 70-80

Orgrimmar in the middle (lots of people) 40-60 FPS

Settings: 2560x1440, quality slider 7, FPS caps removed 64bit WoW executable, CSMT enabled, DX11 mode

System:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700X @ 3.92GHz
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
RAM: 32GB @ 2800 CL14
Monitor: 2560x1440
SSD: Samsung 960 nvme for system, Samsung 850 Evo for a Game
Distro: Arch Linux
DE: MATE 1.20
Kernel: 4.15
GPU Driver: 390.25

I still have some weird stuttering at times when turning with mouse. Doesnt happen when turning with A and D keys. Maybe WoW/wine do not like 1000hz polling or high dpi.

Weird mouse movement video: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1meBtGXaQFwxG6V04Ex3-6KqLlQ8TLxnm/view tried to move mouse with the same speed all the time.
knro 4 Mar 2018
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Slightly off-topic here.. why should I use wine-2.x staging when Wine 3.3 is out? I am using PlayOnLinux and install 3.3 from there. I just play NeverWinter Online and I'm getting 60 FPS with all settings maxed out on NVidia 1080.
whizse 4 Mar 2018
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You don't really.

One of the things that still depends on 2.21, staging or otherwise, are the galllium nine patches. But I'm sure they will be updated in time.
mrdeathjr 7 Mar 2018
I finish some tests between wine 3.3 vanilla and wine 3.3 + PBA

Age of Mythologies Extended Edition

Vanilla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUD5lY8SUMI

Vanilla + PBA

View video on youtube.com

Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2010

Vanilla

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjzE27RCZY

Vanilla + PBA

View video on youtube.com

In both cases performance improve so much (nvenc used in all cases), around 20 to 25fps in each game

^_^
Shmerl 7 Mar 2018
Quoting: knroSlightly off-topic here.. why should I use wine-2.x staging when Wine 3.3 is out?
You should not be using Wine staging 2.x. That project is dead.
Xpander 7 Mar 2018
Quoting: GuestI've not found much as a performance gain using PBA, well none at all really

Tried Burnout Paradise on PBA 3.3 staging and performance seems worse, or at the very least the same

Am I doing anything wrong here? Any particular winetricks I need to install for example?
It all depends on the game and your hardware.

here's a good explanation in which cases this patchset helps: https://comminos.com/posts/2018-02-21-wined3d-profiling.html
mrdeathjr 7 Mar 2018
Quoting: GuestI've not found much as a performance gain using PBA, well none at all really

Tried Burnout Paradise on PBA 3.3 staging and performance seems worse, or at the very least the same

Am I doing anything wrong here? Any particular winetricks I need to install for example?
Maybe try later but in my case works good

Spoiler, click me

System Specs Used in Test

Nvidia Drivers 387.34 (run package from nvidia drivers homepage)

Xubuntu 16.04 x64 - Kernel 4.13.0-16 generic (ubuntu mainline) - CPUFreq: Performance

CPU: INTEL Pentium G3258 (Haswell 22nm) 4.1Ghz + Artic Cooling Alpine 11 Plus

MEMORY: 8GB DDR3 1333 (2x4) Patriot value (128 bit dual channel: 21.3 gb/s)

GPU: Gigabyte Nvidia Geforce GTX 1050 OC (GP107 14nm: 640 Shaders / 40 TMUS / 32 ROPS) Windforce 2GB DDR5 7000Mhz 128Bit (110Gb/s)

MAINBOARD: MSI H81M E33

However which is your hardware specs ?

^_^
mrdeathjr 7 Mar 2018
Another interesting case is remember me

Vanilla + PBA

Spoiler, click me
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Vanilla + PBA + CSMT

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mrdeathjr 7 Mar 2018
Another case is dishonored

Vanilla + PBA

Spoiler, click me
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Vanilla + PBA + CSMT

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mrdeathjr 7 Mar 2018
Blur

Vanilla + PBA

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Vanilla + PBA + CSMT

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mrdeathjr 7 Mar 2018
Batman Arkham Asylum

Vanilla + PBA

Spoiler, click me
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Vanilla + PBA + CSMT

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^_^
mrdeathjr 8 Mar 2018
Batman Arkham City

In last time this game shows 40fps in roof scene

But now

Vanilla + PBA

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Curiously if activate csmt down fps to 40 - 42fps in same scene

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