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AMD Xbox Game Pass Promotion
Dragunov commented on 17 July 2019 at 4:09 am UTC

I guess AMD is offering 3 months of Xbox Game Pass to anyone that buys a new Ryzen 3000 CPU or RX5700 GPU.
Problem is...what on earth am I gonna do with it XD. I don't think they really gave consideration to Linux users.
I tried to give the Game Pass away, but apparently it does a system check to make sure you have the AMD CPU or GPU installed in your PC.

I can't really complain because it was a free gift, but still...would have been nice to get a promotion that I can actually use. The Game Pass will only work on Winblows 10, so firing up my old Win 7 PC is out of the question.

Anyone else pick up a Ryzen 3k cpu yet?

I'm still waiting for mine to arrive in the mail.

entropie commented on 17 July 2019 at 6:35 am UTC

As far as I know it really is only running in a Windows store app, so there is little chance to get the games.

My 3900X arrived yesterday, but I wasnt at home so it went to a pickup store. I will get it today and then may be have to wait another day for the watercooler to arrive. I am still a bit hesitant to install it right away without another BIOS update, but I think on a MSI B450 Tomahawk and Ubuntu 18.04 I should be fine.

Dragunov commented on 19 July 2019 at 3:17 am UTC

I went with the budget Ryzen 5 3600. I don't really need the extra power to warrant twice the price. I only use microATX boards so none of these new x570 chipset boards would fit in my cases. It won't hurt anything to try booting it, you will just get a black screen if it doesn't work. Mine just arrived today and wouldn't boot without the bios update.

I went with the MSI B450M PRO-M2 V2 motherboard. It was only $65.

I tried calling my local PC stores to try to buy a cheap AM4 cpu to flash the bios, but every store is completely out of AM4 cpu's altogether! I guess everyone else had the same idea I did I couldn't even find any cheap used am4 cpus.

I ended up ordering a ryzen 3 1200 for $60 and I'll have to wait a couple more days.

I'm not even gonna bother with the Xbox Pass. Why couldn't they just give a free game like they usually do?

entropie commented on 19 July 2019 at 12:30 pm UTC

The beauty of the beast

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Shmerl commented on 19 July 2019 at 5:33 pm UTC

Still waiting for 3900X to appear in stores. Seems like AMD have production problems, because it's sold out everywhere.

I don't care about Xbox promos personally, and would also prefer the CPU to come without default cooler for a slightly lower price, since I'm using a Noctua one anyway, but AMD don't provide such options.

If anyone is running 3900X though, what are your temperatures? I've seen many reports it runs very hot even when idle.

entropie commented on 22 July 2019 at 7:16 am UTC

ShmerlIf anyone is running 3900X though, what are your temperatures? I've seen many reports it runs very hot even when idle.

The 3900X is still lacking a k10temp kernel module, I have no readings on its temperature. Yet I have the readings from the mainboard and if they are accurate, it reports an idle temp of 40 °C. On load I get to 51 °C so its absolutely not running hot. I get an accurate reading on the fan and know from the BIOS on what rpm it would spin regarding to the temperature and the rpm speeds align with the motherboard temperature readings. So this CPU is not getting very hot actually its pretty cool. From benchmarks I read, maximum expected temps are around 59 °C.
On my R7 2700X I had jumping btween 45 - 50 °C on idle and 65 °C on load, so the Ryzen 9 is an improvment.
All tested with the standard Wraith prism, which is perfect. Looks nice and is silent. The Ryzen 9 comes with a good BIOS fan profile. You dont really need a custom fan, nor an AiO. CPU temperature spiking goes way to fast for an AiO to handle it properly. An AiO is only good with a Vega or GPUs in general, where the heating happens slowly and constantly.

I dont know what strange problems windows users have on the AMD subreddit, it was explained that if you start tools like CPU-Z, the polling of the cpu can spike temps. And most of them have overclocked this beauty already that I absolutely do not understand since its a beast already.

What definitly will be an asset, according to the latest phoronix test, is an pci-e 4.0 ssd. They run really fast and will have a feelable impact on gaming , I am sure. Yet I try to not get to excited about them yet, cause then I had to spent money again on a new X570 and the ssd and then my wife is gonna kill me .

Shmerl commented on 22 July 2019 at 7:24 am UTC

You can try applying these patches manually, until it hits the upstream kernel:

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11043271/
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11043277/

Or these (looks like there are two sets for the same thing):

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11049409/
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11049411/

More details here: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/list/

entropie commented on 22 July 2019 at 7:38 am UTC

ShmerlYou can try applying these patches manually, until it hits the upstream kernel:

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11043271/
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11043277/

Or these (looks like there are two sets for the same thing):

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11049409/
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11049411/

More details here: https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-hwmon/list/

Thanks but I will wait for the liquorix kernel to adapt it, will be prolly happening in a few days. I am pretty sure the mainboard temp reading is already accurate, since it aligns with what I have seen before on the Ryzen 7 and the fan curve, so that is all I need to know.

Have to use my spare PC time now for gaming, I have built too much mesa letely .

Dragunov commented on 24 July 2019 at 5:24 am UTC

This has turned into an absolute nightmare for me. I was really excited to use my new Ryzen 5 3600.

I had to buy a Ryzen 3 1200 so that I could flash the new MSI beta bios. Problem is, this beta bios that supposedly has Ryzen 3k support doesn't work at all on my motherboard.

I really regret buying this new CPU and motherboard.

If anyone else is planning on buying one just save yourself the headache and get a board with an x570 chipset or don't buy one at all.

I guess i'll cross my fingers that they release a stable working bios soon, but i'm not gonna hold my breath. I think I might have just threw $400 down the drain.

So basically, I have the latest bios and it still won't boot...

Good to see you got yours working at least.

Shmerl commented on 24 July 2019 at 5:32 am UTC

DragunovI had to buy a Ryzen 3 1200 so that I could flash the new MSI beta bios. Problem is, this beta bios that supposedly has Ryzen 3k support doesn't work at all on my motherboard.

I think AMD provide a free temporary CPU for that purpose: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-100

Though looks like it won't help in your case anyway. I usually use Asrock motherboards and they tend to have good support. Never used MSI.

So may be sell your Ryzen 3 1200 and MSI MB, and get something like Asrock X570 Taichi?

Dragunov commented on 25 July 2019 at 2:31 am UTC

I actually wouldn't mind the new ASRock X570M PRO4 Micro-ATX motherboard, but its going for $185 and it's out of stock most places. I was trying to go for a cheap basic motherboard because I don't really need the extra bells and whistles and don't really plan on overclocking. If I get a larger motherboard I will have to get a bigger case too.

I was hoping this would be just a quick budget upgrade so that I could re-use my Case, Power Supply, and Hard Drives, but it turned out to be a bit more complicated than I expected.

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