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AMD's driver situation for their new hardware is far from perfect (on Windows as well I hear), but that obviously doesn't mean that AMD doesn't let us play our games on Linux.
But my point was that your attitude seems very "us versus them" for someone who thinks we're all brothers. I wasn't really trying to start a conversation.
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The curious thing is I went along using my desktop with just the nodma trick enabled, and everything was apparently fine. Then powerplay problems started after I made a system update, even if I locked my kernel version to v5.3.0-19, which gave me no problems before. This is when I tried v5.4.1, which did not resolve anything.
Maybe navi firmware files got updated? Does that make sense? Is it possible the problems are in the firmware rather than in the kernel? Or maybe it's both...
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I think this sums it up quite nicely.
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Pretty much, yes. I expect AMD to improve that, once their financial situation will improve as well. For instance, they can start providing upstream support more in advance, like Intel do, hire more developers for the Linux team to fix bugs faster, and so on.
However that's not the only criteria for the choice, at least for me. Nvidia not working properly with upstream due to stubborn refusal to open source and problems they cause to Nouveau is a big minus. And in contrast, reporting upstream issues to AMD and Mesa is a big plus for both users and developers. Not only AMD can work on those, but the likes of Valve and others can participate, thus we get radv, ACO and so on, which wouldn't have been even possible otherwise.
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That's interesting, but if I understood it correctly, there was a race condition in powerplay, which was fixed in 5.4. So not sure why the problem still persisted for you with 5.4.1. For me it got fixed, but those messages still spam dmesg, so I disabled most amdgpu sensors meanwhile, except for temperature monitor in KDE plasmoid, which doesn't trigger it for me.
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The point is not to bubble anything, but to explain objective issues. No solution is perfect.
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Last edited by Shmerl on 3 December 2019 at 4:26 pm UTC