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Downsides of openSUSE Tumbleweed ?
m-svo commented on 20 November 2019 at 3:18 pm UTC

Hi! Just something that crossed my mind while I was looking through some news and saw openSUSE.
I use Arch for fresh packages, but I do not need really bleeding edge packages.
Let`s say I have to reinstall, can I replace my Arch with openSUSE? What would be the downsides?
Let`s assume openSUSE has all the packages I need in repos.
I use Nvidia GTX 1060.

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nox commented on 20 November 2019 at 8:28 pm UTC

While my information might be pretty out of date, last time I dealt with it graphics drivers was a pretty big issue, especially for nvidia.
I also had generally strange small bugs everywhere, like sounds cutting out where it wouldn't in other distros.

Personally though, I couldn't switch without knowing I could use the pkgbuilds from TkG!

chui2ch commented on 20 November 2019 at 8:31 pm UTC

noxWhile my information might be pretty out of date, last time I dealt with it graphics drivers was a pretty big issue, especially for nvidia.
I also had generally strange small bugs everywhere, like sounds cutting out where it wouldn't in other distros.

Personally though, I couldn't switch without knowing I could use the pkgbuilds from TkG!
The NVIDIA driver problem should be fixed since they have a Tumbleweed repo now. https://news.opensuse.org/2017/09/20/new-repository-caters-to-tumbleweeds-nvidia-users/.

Last edited by chui2ch on 20 November 2019 at 8:31 pm UTC

nox commented on 20 November 2019 at 8:33 pm UTC

chui2ch
noxWhile my information might be pretty out of date, last time I dealt with it graphics drivers was a pretty big issue, especially for nvidia.
I also had generally strange small bugs everywhere, like sounds cutting out where it wouldn't in other distros.

Personally though, I couldn't switch without knowing I could use the pkgbuilds from TkG!
The NVIDIA driver problem should be fixed since they have a Tumbleweed repo now. https://news.opensuse.org/2017/09/20/new-repository-caters-to-tumbleweeds-nvidia-users/.

Sweet! I no longer use Nvidia, so it wouldn't be a huge problem for me but that's great "news".

ageres commented on 21 November 2019 at 12:42 pm UTC

I've been using openSUSE Tumbleweed on my laptop for 3 or 4 months. There were (and are) some annoying problems.
1. I have to input my password to encrypt its disk drive twice.
2. Its wifi MAC address is dynamic by default, and I have a router with the IP whitelist at my work. So, some time for googling and tweaking stuff in the terminal had to be spent.
3. No hardware acceleration for video files by default, yet another session of googling and installing needed packages.
4. No hotkeys (at least in XFCE), like Ctrl+Alt+T for the terminal or WinKey to menu.
5. More RAM consumption in comparison to Xubuntu and other XFCE Linux distros. Not dramatic increase though (1.1 of 8 GB) but still more than it could have been.
6. Too frequent and big updates - 600+ MB every day. Much more if you skip few days.
7. Sometimes wifi doesn't work after booting these days, I have to reboot to get it working. At first I had this problem for the laptop's keyboard and touchpad panel, now I don't.
8. The keyboard and touchpad panel may stop working after I go back from the sleeping mode.

Some of these issues may be caused by hardware or be Linux problems in general, but nevertheless I'm disappointed in openSUSE Tumbleweed and going to replace it with Manjaro when I'll get a new SSD.

m-svo commented on 21 November 2019 at 1:25 pm UTC

Thanks everyone for input.
I just finished installing openSUSE Tumbleweed in a qemu VM, it does not boot to GDM, only boots with "nomodeset" kernel parameter into command line.
When booted with "nomodeset" NetworkManager fails to start, and can not be started via systemctl.
Also, during installation it failed to install curl due to error 404, I guess the package got updated in default mirror while installer was running.
I understand it might work fine on bare metal, but these issues are discouraging. Every other distro worked in qemu for me.

Laboratoryo_ni_Neil commented on 21 November 2019 at 3:30 pm UTC

Why not Manjaro?

m-svo commented on 21 November 2019 at 3:52 pm UTC

Laboratoryo_ni_NeilWhy not Manjaro?
It's basically Arch, but you can't look for support at Arch forums and post bugs to Arch bugtracker, it is just confusing for me. In this case, I would rather use Arch. Just thought that SUSE is also great for gaming and I would not have to backup root folder, just reinstall if it breaks. Turns out, this is not the case.

The_Aquabat commented on 21 November 2019 at 4:01 pm UTC

I used Leap not tumbleweed for quite some time, the user repositories are the best I really miss something like that on my distro.
But I stopped using opensuse because there are some little things that Ubuntu based distro do better. Besides based on the user stats of the gaming linux users Opensuse is maybe a bit exotic, steam sometimes has problems and some games may have some glitches or minor details, if you can live with that then I suppose it's ok. I stopped using it precisely for that reasons. I don't know if Arch works better for those little things, maybe yes since some valve devs use Arch based distros. It's just some minor details like joystick not getting properly detected in some games, or in some cases more serious stuff like some graphical bugs that make some games unplayable, (it happened to me only with Cossacks 3, but it can happen)



ageresI've been using openSUSE Tumbleweed on my laptop for 3 or 4 months. There were (and are) some annoying problems.
1. I have to input my password to encrypt its disk drive twice.
2. Its wifi MAC address is dynamic by default, and I have a router with the IP whitelist at my work. So, some

setting a encrypted disk with the default setup is not easy, but it's not that easy in ubuntu too. Did you setup the crypttab file correctly?? Are you using LVM??

you can change the default behaviour of the Mac Address randomizer.

denyasis commented on 22 November 2019 at 12:48 am UTC

Hello;

I'm not an expert here, but I've used tumbleweed for the past year on my desktop and laptop (KDE and XFCE)

I have a 1070ti. I enabled a repo and it just works. It's generally pretty smooth and I haven't had to tinker much with it, unlike my previous distro (Sparky linux). The setup and YAST was very helpful setting up NFS drives and has options for quite about everything.

This was my first non apt based distro, so getting used to the package manager and how it's organized is a learning process, but it's pretty intuitive and the docs/references are helpful enough to figure most things out.

It does update frequently, but I wouldn't stay much more than Debian testing. I honestly can say I've not experienced any major breakage during the past year.

Hope that helps. I don't do anything exotic, just game one evening a week. It's pretty good for me.

ageres commented on 22 November 2019 at 11:33 am UTC

The_Aquabatsetting a encrypted disk with the default setup is not easy, but it's not that easy in ubuntu too. Did you setup the crypttab file correctly?? Are you using LVM??
I did that during installation, the same way as I did for Ubuntu and Mint: created /boot, encrypted the rest with LUKS, used it as /.

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