A lot of games actually require SSL, plenty of them bundle what they need with it. If the game does not, you should probably speak to GOG and get them to sort it since they're usually the ones packaging up Linux games. Steam usually sorts that itself, since it has the Steam Linux Runtime.

It's the [same on Fedora FYI](https://www.gog.com/forum/surviving_mars/linux_unable_to_start_armstrong_update_version_on_fedora_30_missing_dependecies), you need to supply it yourself.

Last edited by GamingOnLinux Bot on 13 May 2020 at 9:32 am UTC

Quoting: GuestJust copy the one from Steam runtime if you have Steam and some linux games for it, no need to install it system wide.

I searched the ".steam" folder for "libssl"... Nothing.

Where else might I find this file and if not on my system, what package do I install for the latest version (libssl / libssl.so didn't work)?

Quoting: Liam DaweIf the game does not, you should probably speak to GOG and get them to sort it since they're usually the ones packaging up Linux games.

Nevermind.

I'll see what GOG.com say first...

Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 13 May 2020 at 9:38 am UTC

Hello,

I don't see why it wouldn't be safe to install OpenSSL, and it is probably already installed on your system but it is a newer version than the one you used to play Surviving Mars previously.

The game is looking for 1.0.0 and in Ubuntu 20.04 the version is 1.1.1, you could try a symlink and see if it works or download the old lib put it in the game folder and preload it.

Quoting: sergeand it is probably already installed on your system but it is a newer version than the one you used to play Surviving Mars previously.

The game is looking for 1.0.0 and in Ubuntu 20.04 the version is 1.1.1, you could try a symlink and see if it works or download the old lib put it in the game folder and preload it.

You're right - I have a much newer version of OpenSSL installed that "Surviving Mars" apparently cannot "see"... I have e-mailed both GOG.com and Paradox Interactive to see if the game will be updated to address this game-breaking bug in the foreseeable future.

Quoting: GuestThe full path on my system is "~/.steam/ubuntu12_32/steam-runtime/amd64/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/"

For games that require libssl 1.0 you will typically also need to copy the corresponding libcrypto from this same folder. A good way to find out where it searches local libraries is looking at the ldd output for non-system paths, and copy those two libs there.

Yeah, I found those two files and copied them to the parent folder for "Surviving Mars"... Strange that they didn't come up when I searched for them (might be because they're in a "hidden" folder).

I'm still going to keep pushing for GOG.com / Paradox Interactive to either update this game to include libssl.so.1.0.0, or support the latest version... Not including this and "passing the buck" is just lazy - "everyday gamers" shouldn't need to go through this hassle because they're too lazy to include this library or support the latest version.

GOG hates you and your Linux computer and they’re doing what they can to get everyone to use Windows so they can fire the lone Linux person they have.

Quoting: damarrinGOG hates you and your Linux computer and they’re doing what they can to get everyone to use Windows so they can fire the lone Linux person they have.

Sad, but true.

Quoting: sergeI don't see why it wouldn't be safe to install OpenSSL, and it is probably already installed on your system but it is a newer version than the one you used to play Surviving Mars previously.

It's not that install openssl is not safe. It's that openssl 1.0 is not considered safe anymore due to bugs. Therefore the openssl developers don't want you deploying that version. Whether games use it in an unsafe way depends on the game. In most cases it is very low risk.

Quoting: dulsi

Quoting: sergeI don't see why it wouldn't be safe to install OpenSSL, and it is probably already installed on your system but it is a newer version than the one you used to play Surviving Mars previously.

It's not that install openssl is not safe. It's that openssl 1.0 is not considered safe anymore due to bugs. Therefore the openssl developers don't want you deploying that version. Whether games use it in an unsafe way depends on the game. In most cases it is very low risk.

I don't understand why it's such a hassle to just update a game to use the latest version of the library... As is the case here (the "Steam" version of "Surviving Mars" cannot "see" the latest version of OpenSSL installed on my system).

Quoting: GuestIt's simple: it's not lootboxes. Cases like this point it out clearly why nonfree software in general is bad.

This. If it was an issue with so-called "loot boxes", it'd be fixed the next day!

Of course, that doesn't apply here - but it is the case for so many other games...

Last edited by Cyba.Cowboy on 16 May 2020 at 12:24 am UTC

Quoting: Cyba.CowboyThis. If it was an issue with so-called "loot boxes", it'd be fixed the next day!

Yes but not how you are thinking. They would package the openssl 1.0. Unless the game has new content that requires building a new binary, The code suffers bit rot. They may not know how to build a new version. When the Sinistar: Unleashed wanted to be released for free on a magazine disc, they needed to remove the copy protection. They download a crack pirates had made because they didn't have an easy way to rebuild the code. Once a game is complete, commercial games have no incentive to making sure it builds.

The same thing happens with open source as well. It's why I did a talk on Free Software Game Restoration. I was looking at the old Open Game Source articles I have. I tried three of the games. None of them built. Programs released on distros have probably been updated over time by either the maintainer of the software or the packager to keep everything working.

Just to update you all, Paradox Interactive (eventually) got back to me and whilst they made no promises as to when this issue would be addressed, they have opened it as an outstanding bug in their internal bug-tracking system... GOG.com on the other hand, basically threw their hands up and went "not our problem".