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What do you think?
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There are only 4 gaming platforms: Win, PS, XB, Switch
Game devs can't be bothered with more than that. Linux native games are disappearing from Steam.
Even Apple caved in and created a Proton-like translation layer for macOS (unsupported for now, but still).
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That said, I definitely prefer native and will encourage it/go out of my way to grab it on release if it's a game that interests me. I'm not sure of after the fact porting like Feral/Aspyr are the way to go; I appreciate all they did and at the time they were a godsend but they were always playing catch-up instead of being included from the get go so quality and delay were a fact of life.
I can't say Proton doesn't provide the better experience in many of those cases. I'd wish developers would properly start with cross platform in mind so we had good version instead. That's a reason I try to put my money where my mouth is there. I do plenty on Proton, but esp with a big backlog, those get put on my Waiting for Big Sale list for sometime in the future.
The definition of Zealot:
It's pretty clear, "other ideals", the ideology of being Native-only or nothing. That literally by the definition is a Zealot.
Also, it's not belittling to say a minority is a minority. You can't seriously believe Native-only Linux gamers are the majority? Lol.
Uh, what? I'm laying out pretty clearly my thoughts on it, and the way things stand pretty factually. Unless you think it's not a fact that Linux gaming is a niche? And that most games do not get ported to Linux? And that often Proton can be far better?
It's nothing to do with recent comments, this video was planned as soon as the PAYDAY 2 article was posted and I've done stuff like it before.
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Not arguing definition, I said how it came across to me. And there is middle ground between only playing native and not caring at all. To pretend that it's one extreme or the other is baffling.
I never said that at all. Stop making up arguments. Again, it's the disdainful tone that came across.
Did you just stop reading my post halfway through?
You literally said it. Again, you're really acting as if I've done a wee-wee in your cereal here. This is what annoys me and how Native zealots constantly come across, like people who argue for and use Proton are somehow being nasty when just laying out the facts of the market. So instead of countering, you're now moving into the territory of claiming I can't read. Great job so far :)
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I'm not upset at all, I'm just answering your initial question of "What do you think?".
Fair enough.
No, I never said it wasn't a minority. I just noted that you seem to dismiss them altogether with disdain.
ETA: Perhaps my wording was a bit off. "as just a "minority"" -> "for BEING a minority"
Again I am not mad, this is called having a discussion with different views. Responses don't equate getting riled up.
And I agreed with your point there that I originally quoted, which was 3/4 of my entire post. Which is why I said that.
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- We never got a lot of ports.
- Those that did ports mostly starting winding down or left entirely after Steam Machines failed.
- A fair amount of Linux ports get left broken or abandoned.
- Proton came along, and solved a lot of issues.
- There's a minority in the community that absolutely act like zealots when it comes to Proton. I was once a bit like it with "no tux no bux".
- Right now the Linux user share doesn't support direct ports for the majority of developers.
All of the above is just a summing up of my video.
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I am grateful for Proton, I play way more games through that than I've ever had Native, but I'm a pretty uncompromising SOB to the point that I don't even tolerate what most Linux distributors do (and even then I change a lot). I'm fussy with my Protons and Wine implementations now, even.
This I can relate to. At one point, when the future was bright and we were moving towards HIGHER SINGLE DIGITS of market share, I thought similarly. This never happened and at this point it's very doubtful it ever will.
What Linux needs to make all this stuff moot is someone with a lot of money to do a huge marketing push for years and years, much like Apple did in the early 2000s. I couldn't say who that might be.