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Already on Steam library....Steam Maxsettings openSUSE KDE FTW!

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Quoting: SnevI wonder if the new Hammer of Source2 supports linux!

Nope. Not yet, in fact. I guess it will in the future as Valve made Source 2 in OpenGl with the goal to be Linux-friendly, so I guess the dev tools will come to Linux when there more stable. But now, they don't.

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Quoting: abelthorneMaybe they won't need this because HL3 and L4D3 will be free2play? ;)

Please tell me there isn't any actual evidence of this

Well, there have been rumours. At some point, HL3 was supposed to be a single player game with elements of multiplayer and free to play with possibility to buy stuff. But it has probably been scratched, it was years ago. And it may have been a false rumour at the time.

Yet, I wouldn't be surprised if future Valve games (HL3, L4D3...) would be free2play, as it seems that they make more money with this kind of games, like TF2 and Dota 2. But maybe it wouldn't work for solo games like HL3.

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If that report about 4A games is true, then they should genuinely be supported, especially given what Ukraine is going through at the moment. And they have Linux support on top of all that!

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Quoting: abelthorneMaybe they won't need this because HL3 and L4D3 will be free2play? ;)

Please tell me there isn't any actual evidence of this

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I need to get confirmed beyond doubt that indeed the OpenGL version is as upgraded as the DirectX version, but if it is I'm onboard to buy it - again.

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This tests is with other punkbuster games with wine 1.7.24 + nvidia 343.13


Assassins Creed Brotherhood Multiplayer Test 2

View video on youtube.com


Assassins Creed Revelations Multiplayer

View video on youtube.com


FarCry 3 Multiplayer

View video on youtube.com


At simple seek punkbuster problem depend more of game where you can entry



Other titles too tested with Wine 1.7.24 + Nvidia 343.13



Saint Row The Third


View video on youtube.com


In this wine game textures have minor flickering compared with 1.7.23 but character rendering problems still continue


The Saboteur


View video on youtube.com


This title runs better than last time tested


^_^

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Dont wanna pay for a game I already have :P. Yes its updated and improved, but the 2033 hade some really broken elements in my opinion. And I dont see why I have to pay to fix that :P.

I rather want them to create another metro game or try go back to stalker like games.
If u dont got mentro I recommend it, and I dont think u should hasitate to grapp this redux version of it.

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I might pick this up once it's out of Early Access. Definitely looks like a fun game to play with friends.

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Quoting: laveinstead of an exclusive release they could bundle halflife3 with their first generation of steamboxes

Now that I can get behind ;)

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Quoting: HadBabitsI've found the best approach (for me) is to find specific reviewers you trust. Also, someone with similar tastes (in my case, the fellow from IndieStatik) or someone who can be objective enough to recommend a quality game that doesn't fit their own taste (e.g. TotalBiscuit).

I agree with this advice. Also, especially on releases that's not received a very high metarating, it's wise to read reviews and see what exactly it is that pulled the score down, and if those elements are important for you.

But my experience is that the metrascore is an as reliable source of ratings as it can be, for a very quick indication of overall quality.

Well, that being said, I'm not really a fan of Metacritic, or scores in general myself. They're all right in a pinch, but a bit too broad a tool in my opinion. Applying numeric value to something so subjective seems shaky at best.

However, I do like the Rotten Tomatoes approach of giving a film a score based on the percentage of critics who recommended it. In that context you're playing with binary values ('yea' or 'neigh') as opposed to something much more complex like visual design. I do like the steam review system for this reason, problems aside.

On top of that, I'm just much more fond of language than I am numbers. A good writer should be able to convey their experience through the use of language, without the need of arbitrary rating systems. Though I do appreciate writers who sum up their feelings at the end because sometimes I'm in a rush ;)

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new videocard time!!!!!

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Quoting: AntaliusI'm excited for this as I haven't played either but heard good impressions about both. A bit disappointed for the Linux version delay but somewhat comprehensive considering the relative small number of the dev team and reported hardships they had to face just to put the games out so far (http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/15/4a-games-working-conditions/.

i bought it on their linux support, even though i don't like the game. even preordered redux collection on same reason, but i doubt i'll bother downloading them

still, playing on "bad conditions" sympathy card? kinda low if you ask me, it is not like anyone forced them into working on this game. especially when this video doesn't agree with description
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sYzN78Ntt6U#!
seems like every indie out there

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So I take it FM14 did well on Linux? That should be a good sign as to further Linux support from Sega then.

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As long as the Linux version does come out I for one don't mind the wait. I loved the original 2033 and now I can't wait to play it again natively.

I'm starting to worry about my gaming setup though, might be time for an upgrade!

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I'm excited for this as I haven't played either but heard good impressions about both. A bit disappointed for the Linux version delay but somewhat comprehensive considering the relative small number of the dev team and reported hardships they had to face just to put the games out so far (http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/05/15/4a-games-working-conditions/.

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I have never played this game.... but is a good thing that I accidentally discovered that I have already bought this game with all its DLC in a bundle

1 x Fusion Bundle
Thunder Wolves / The Cat Lady / Time Gentlemen Please - Ben There, Dan That / AI War Collection / Realms of Arkania: Blade of Destiny / Blockland / Pressure / Luxor Evolved / Eryi's Action

at that time I didnt even know why the heck I have bought that bundle, pretty much I had all the games except Eryi's Action...... lol

it costed £2.46 :o

someone said that they may give also for Free the new expansion for all the users that already had the game and all dlc's but is NOT confirmed yet....(i dont think that will happen)

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I wonder if the new Hammer of Source2 supports linux!

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Quoting: lavejust was looking at the comments out of curiousity and actually complete page1 was "yay linux" or "dont be so ignorant, linux yay!"
but maybe its just you people that try to counter them :D

like old saying goes... don't judge book by its cover. it starts ok, at page 3 or so it becomes borderline insane. ?next? gen this and ?next? gen that

as far as i get it, article was renamed in something like "Borderlands is adding another platform" (later renamed again), where both parties jumped to conclusion that if platform is not theirs, they need to express some anger towards the platform being added

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Quoting: laveinstead of an exclusive release they could bundle halflife3 with their first generation of steamboxes

Maybe they won't need this because HL3 and L4D3 will be free2play? ;)

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instead of an exclusive release they could bundle halflife3 with their first generation of steamboxes

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Newell has made it clear in interview that there won't be exclusivities on SteamOS from them. Their goal is to have as many players play their games as possible, whatever the OS they use. They don't really care about the Steam Machines: they want people to buy them if they want them, not force them to with exclusive stuff. Also, I don't think they'll delay anything to match a release date, like having HL3 or L4D3 done and releasing it only when the Steam Machine are ready (or, on the opposite, delaying the SM to when some games are ready).

As for the Dota 2 tools, it's indeed the first Source 2 SDK available (with a new version of Hammer and such), it even downloads a new version of the Dota 2 client. But so far, it's very unoptimized and it's in early alpha. I don't think we'll see it on Linux anytime soon.

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Quoting: HadBabitsI feel I'm more towards the middle.

That's usually smart. The truth is often found somewhere in the middle. :)

Quoting: HadBabitsIt's pretty much the same problem I have with Greenlight

Excellent point.

Quoting: HadBabitsI've found the best approach (for me) is to find specific reviewers you trust. Also, someone with similar tastes (in my case, the fellow from IndieStatik) or someone who can be objective enough to recommend a quality game that doesn't fit their own taste (e.g. TotalBiscuit).

I agree with this advice. Also, especially on releases that's not received a very high metarating, it's wise to read reviews and see what exactly it is that pulled the score down, and if those elements are important for you.

But my experience is that the metrascore is an as reliable source of ratings as it can be, for a very quick indication of overall quality.

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Quoting: hardpenguinThe only game you can buy in game store in box version with penguin on the cover :D

Bought a retail copy of FM 14 solely because of that. Haven´t bought a retail PC game in ages before that.

I really like their support for Linux, unfortunately the game is a bit too hard for me, which makes it quite boring to play.

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Quoting: AlzarathIsometric terrain, eh? Sounds like we may be able to get a StarCraft mod out of this someday.

Starcraft 1 actually has fake isometric tiles so they are diamond shaped, but projected onto an orthographic perspective.

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I love this topic :)

Quoting: liamdaweMy stance came as a result of multiple well known big gaming websites giving a certain game I got stung by 9/10 or 10/10 when in fact it was a steaming pile of turd that thankfully "amateurs" who played it gave a better picture. Some of those sites have since changed their scores.

Would be interesting to hear what game this is, just out of curiosity.
I too have experienced metascore being what I would classify as a little bit off, but my experience is that the metascore in more than 9 out of ten times is an extremely good indicator of the game.

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QuoteCan you for example point at a metascore of a game who you sincerely disagree with and think is totally off the mark?

No, and why would I need to do this? Metascore uses user and publication reviews.

That is simply not true. Metascores - at least those found on real metascore sites - are calculated on reviews from what the maintainer defines as "trusted sources".

Some sites that calculate a metascore (metacritic and imdb being two obvious examples) also carry an additional user rating score that is separate from the metascore. And that user rating is, as a rule of thumb, usually much higher than the metascore. Obviously cause amateurs have no experience as reviewers, and either love or hate something. Ergo, either they give it full score or no score.

Look at any site with user reviews and you'll soon discover the vast majority either hand out 4/5 stars (of a max of five) or null to one star. That's just the rule - this is very likely why Steam only has a thumb up or down.

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QuoteAmateur reviews however... Don't even get me started. I've seen so much crap coming from amateurs on games I own and know, it's not even funny. And *usually* they are far too forgiving, far too uncritical. That is the rule.

Exactly the same for "professional" reviews.

You obviously got an impression that this is the case and I'm not here to tell you what to believe. But look at the facts, man. Look at how users rate games on Steam that might have an as low a metascore as down in the 50s!

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Quoting: EKRboiWell that's awesome. Ill just be over here in my corner waiting for the official announcement of source2 and that HL3 will be a linux/steamOS exclusive.

While I assume this comments not too serious, I have seen many penguins put forth this very idea and it perplexes me. Linux enthusiasts are supposed to be about openness not exclusivity. Platform exclusives are one of the reasons I stay away from consoles nowadays; it's anti-competitive and bad practice imo. I think Linux will continue gaining popularity through it's own merits as a platform. :)

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Admittedly I don't have much interest in this game, but I will join in on this reviews conversation :D

I feel I'm more towards the middle. While I do occasionally scan the user reviews on Steam because there are some very adequate voices on there, there is, as Beam points out, loads of trash. I've seen absolute garbage get recommendations just because the reviewer thought "Let's you walk around 10/10 lolzrofllmao" was such a comedic boon. It's pretty much the same problem I have with Greenlight (see Grass Simulator.

On the other hand, there's plenty of "professional" gaming sites whose writers come of as shills or just very dim (See *gag* Kotaku. I've found the best approach (for me) is to find specific reviewers you trust. Also, someone with similar tastes (in my case, the fellow from IndieStatik) or someone who can be objective enough to recommend a quality game that doesn't fit their own taste (e.g. TotalBiscuit).

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Quoting: MayeulCMaybe not an exclusive, but a timed exclusive ?

I would call that a win as well. I bet the linux stats on steam would fly through the roof that month :P

While it would be an amazing power play by Valve to do something like that and leave console and windows users out in the cold for a bit.. they won't and it makes me :'( Financially it would be a (temporary)disaster i'm sure, but OH MAN!, I would definitley have a long and likely evil sounding laugh when I read the news they were going to do it :D

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Quoting: scaineCrysis 2

Allow me to disagree :)

Yay ! Borderlands for Linux !
Here's my wishlist :

• Menus that are browseable with a mouse


• Splitscreen on PC (at least on Linux/SteamOS). I mean, full, 4 players splitscreen.


• Fun is subjective, but IMO, B1 was more fun than the second. I wish this one will be the funniest

I can't think of anything else for now. Borderlaaaaands ! Yay !

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In this wine version steam still working, performance seems equal to 1.7.23 with same 343.13 drivers (punkbuster give more problems in this wine version in this test, maybe more later test other games with punkbuster)

View video on youtube.com

However in depencies for build this wine version ask for libpcap-dev

^_^

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