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Valve Has Yet Again Greenlit 35 More Linux Games For Steam
By pb, 1 June 2014 at 7:10 pm UTC
Quoting: RobertI must admit I have ignored the DROD games because of the first impression (graphics mainly). I didn't know I can try the first one for free, I promise I will give it a chance.

The sequel, DROD: Journey to Rooted Hold is now on sale for $1,99
http://www.shinyloot.com/drod-journey-to-rooted-hold
Yesterday they had DROD RPG: Tendry's Tale on -80% discount, so it's possible they'll do it for the remaining instalments as well.
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By jdub, 1 June 2014 at 7:05 pm UTC
Quoting: ImantsMy biggest problem are shortcuts :). The most easiest way I find is using terminal :( on my Ubuntu 14.10. Other than that for home use I do not regret ditching windows.

For shortcuts I use menulibre, it's much better than alacarte in my experience
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By , 1 June 2014 at 7:04 pm UTC
I never seem to get this survey.
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By jdub, 1 June 2014 at 7:03 pm UTC
And for reference I was talking about the Ubuntu software center, not the Mint one.
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By , 1 June 2014 at 7:03 pm UTC
My biggest problem are shortcuts :). The most easiest way I find is using terminal :( on my Ubuntu 14.10. Other than that for home use I do not regret ditching windows.
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By jdub, 1 June 2014 at 6:59 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdaweIf someone has complaints about Linux it doesn't mean they are a Windows fanboy.

I obviously use and love Linux, but it also pisses me off to no end at the same time. I completely agree on graphics drivers installation from repositories in Ubuntu/Mint being a pain. For me luckily though Cinnamon saved the day as it makes everything bar graphics drivers install a lot easier.

Simple thing like being able to do an uninstall command from right clicking an app in the "start menu", it's little things like that.

Yea, Windows fanboy I am not, I use Linux as my main OS...I don't let ignorant name-calling get to me. People can be really sensitive about their OS and that's ok. There is a lot of room for improvement and mint sure has gone the extra mile on that one
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By Liam Dawe, 1 June 2014 at 6:41 pm UTC
If someone has complaints about Linux it doesn't mean they are a Windows fanboy.

I obviously use and love Linux, but it also pisses me off to no end at the same time. I completely agree on graphics drivers installation from repositories in Ubuntu/Mint being a pain. For me luckily though Cinnamon saved the day as it makes everything bar graphics drivers install a lot easier.

Simple thing like being able to do an uninstall command from right clicking an app in the "start menu", it's little things like that.
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By minj, 1 June 2014 at 6:24 pm UTC
Actually, there will be no plugins for all platforms in September. Argument invalid.

As for Skype, it indeed has been hanging for me periodically for over a year now. An MS conspiracy perhaps?
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By peterp771, 1 June 2014 at 6:17 pm UTC
Not really sure what you're on about jdub. Skype works perfectly well on Linux. Most people won't need to ever use PPA's or terminal commands and installing drivers takes about 3 clicks. I'm using Mint and the software center works smoothly. Also I'm not sure what you mean by Chrome plugins but if you mean extensions, then they're fully supported. Office software like Libre Office works well (more and more businesses are moving towards it and dropping Office) and Gimp should do just fine for 95% of people who want photo editing software.

You're obviously a Windows fanboy so don't try and pull that one on us. Sorry but I've seen too many people claiming to use and love Linux while trashing it at the same time.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By fedso, 1 June 2014 at 6:00 pm UTC
QuoteI've never met a Windows gamer who doesn't update their graphics drivers, have you?
Yes, many, all casual gamers though.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By loggfreak, 1 June 2014 at 5:54 pm UTC
Quoting: sgtGarciaSometimes I think that hybrid graphics brought more problems than resolved :/
true, having constant issues with bumblebee on linux, on windows optimus works fine though, but on linux it's a hell to get working
Quoting: SaniTBut seriously, post lots of pro-OpenGL articles now, to even out the argument, from actual long-time Linux (if not Linux-ONLY) OpenGL developers.
like this one?
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/01/Why-you-should-use-OpenGL-and-not-DirectX
Fresh Footage Of The New Unreal Tournament That's Coming To Linux
By Qantourisc, 1 June 2014 at 5:34 pm UTC
Nice, but seen a port of Unreal Tournament before, I'd be more assured with a letter from the legal department stating all licensing issues are solved :)
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 5:23 pm UTC
As other people already pointed out, not everyone is as tech savvy as the average or hardcore gamer might be. I have worked in hardware retail and have seen normal customers first hand, not updating drivers or security sensitive software on a regular basis.

Furthermore, what might be relatively easy to do on a desktop PC might turn into a nightmare on notebooks as I have experienced first hand on my own HP notebook from 2011 with an Intel HD 3000 + AMD 6770M which only runs relatively stable and smooth on modded drivers (thanks Leshcat!) with a modded BIOS (thanks Donovan!; to enable "dynamic mode") on Windows 8.1 (even worse performance and stability-wise on Windows 7). I have lost count how many houres I have wasted trying out broken drivers for this piece of bad engineering!

In "fixed mode" which is set by default in the non-modded BIOS, some 3D-Games (Battlefield 3 and 4 are the most prominent) just crash with awkward DirectX-Errors after several minutes of gameplay. Our typical customer would have waved the flag of surrender at the point he found out that he couldn't update his drivers with newer official ones from their website. The official AMD mobility drivers just recently (September 2013) became installable for this platform and still do not provide the same smoothness as the modded one's. Also the mentioned dx errors will just go away when set to dynamic mode.

But back on track: I hope Khronos adopts a Mantle-like approach just as Microsoft did. That would surely ease the burden of supporting different back-ends and thus porting to different platforms for ISVs and easing the driver work for the IHVs. Just to name a few advantages. As NVIDIA and INTEL are already on board for D3D12, I see less and less of a political issue here to work together with AMD on Khronos on this as well. Just name it OpenGL 5 or whatever to let them keep their face.
Pandora: First Contact Now On Steam For Linux With Big Content Update
By , 1 June 2014 at 5:14 pm UTC Likes: 1
I bought it on Steam, and have been playing it some the last couple nights. Mixed impressions. So far it's actually a fairly tough game. I miss some Alpha Centauri things, like the social/political system dimension. There is a lot that's very Alpha C-ish.

Some that's different is not so much in concept as in how things play out--like, both have dangerous native life, but in this the dangerous native life multiplies, is at first distinctly tougher than you, and once it starts to notice that you're there it has your address and comes after you. So far I've seriously worried much more about the bloody aliens than I have about my rival factions; they keep wiping my cities out, or killing my new colonists before they can get one started. Plus there's formers just like in Alpha C, but they're almost useless a lot of the time. The way it goes is, you build a former, you send it out to do terrain improvements. It does a few, then aliens come and kill it, then more aliens scrag the mines and farms it made and you're back at square one. Until you can get some military forces badass enough to go wipe the hives off the map, they're a major limiting factor on both expansion and city improvement, and have sometimes threatened to flat wipe out my budding civilization.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By Liam Dawe, 1 June 2014 at 4:56 pm UTC
Wow I honestly thought the amount of "gamers" who didn't update their graphics drivers was low. I am utterly shocked that doing something as simple as that is now what a power user does, my how levels have come down.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 4:53 pm UTC
Yes I've had people in my circles that did not update their drivers until I had some program of mine that used OpenGL cross-compiled for windows they had to use. Then we discovered that the official drivers from Nvidia (with nvidia-settings) that come PRE-INSTALLED on a pc don't have OpenGL support! :><: :><: :><:
But when I install a newer version of the nvidia-driver from their site it DOES install openGL support, that's just ridiculous! why on earth does the manufacturer strip openGL support from the nvidia-driver package? isn't it just easier to install the full package and have ALL games working?

last time I wanted to play xonotic online with a friend, who had a new laptop, the game ran as slow as hell on his windows 8 machine, but it ran fine on my linux one.
I asked him which GPU he had in his laptop and he had an nvidia GT740M I had a 540M one so his pc should run faster, guess what? a driver update from nvidia added openGL support and from there on it finally was playable.....
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 4:45 pm UTC
Can you find some sites/blogs/etc. supporting OpenGL? I'm tired of seeing 1-sided arguments against OpenGL, especially from developers that have no idea how to really use it. Not all benchmarks are equal either, and it's often difficult to understand what they really mean or signify, even for the professionals. This sounds like the age-old argument of "Windows is better than Linux" by people that have little or no idea about Linux, and only a vague understanding of Windows (as if there's any other type of understanding of Windows). This is especially since Direct X has nothing to do with Linux. I would be surprised if this WASN'T another Microsoft campaign/attack against Linux and all things associated, perhaps greasing some of the wheels to run the way Microsoft wants.

But seriously, post lots of pro-OpenGL articles now, to even out the argument, from actual long-time Linux (if not Linux-ONLY) OpenGL developers.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By ThePartisan, 1 June 2014 at 4:42 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: SXXThere is a lot of people who don't understand what hybrid graphics is.

They might even updating drivers, but only for AMD/Nvidia and not Intel because they don't even know what integrated graphics is or *THINKS* that every game using discrete graphics. As result many many games keep running on Intel graphics with drivers from 2011 which mean instant crash for OpenGL game. :><:

There is per-game profile for Nvidia Optimus and AMD Dual Graphics, but those mainly for AAA games only and most of indie games will never get such profile.

Sometimes I think that hybrid graphics brought more problems than resolved :/
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By SXX, 1 June 2014 at 4:22 pm UTC
Quoting: Nikolaj HansenAfaik, steam can also upgrade, or suggest updates, to your systems gpu.
This isn't working for laptops especially one with AMD.

PS: Other problem I forgot to notice about OpenGL games.
There is a lot of people who don't understand what hybrid graphics is.

They might even updating drivers, but only for AMD/Nvidia and not Intel because they don't even know what integrated graphics is or *THINKS* that every game using discrete graphics. As result many many games keep running on Intel graphics with drivers from 2011 which mean instant crash for OpenGL game. :><:

There is per-game profile for Nvidia Optimus and AMD Dual Graphics, but those mainly for AAA games only and most of indie games will never get such profile.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 4:13 pm UTC
You're a power user, who updates. A significant portion of users are "not very good with computers" and do not update. Older drivers are very common.

The developer you are questioning the completence of works for Unity engine itself, not some random small game. Unity has direct contact with Nvidia, ATI, Intel and MESA and they probably 'share' some developers with Nvidia etc (the graphics card manufacturers send you experts to join your company, to help you to optimise your code on their hardware). They also get bug reports from studios using Unity.

If he says a significant number of people do not update, why should I not believe him?
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By ThePartisan, 1 June 2014 at 4:05 pm UTC
Quoting: Nikolaj HansenAfaik, steam can also upgrade, or suggest updates, to your systems gpu.
Not under Linux.
Contagion Survival FPS Waiting On Valve For Help To Come To Linux
By FutureSuture, 1 June 2014 at 3:50 pm UTC
This actually looks really interesting to me. The game modes, the game mechanics, cool stuff. I would still like to know if there is any weapon variety, however.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 3:43 pm UTC
Afaik, steam can also upgrade, or suggest updates, to your systems gpu.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By FutureSuture, 1 June 2014 at 3:21 pm UTC
Quoting: AnonymousNo, I've never updated my drivers on the windows. There is actually statistics about it that show that not many people update GPU drivers on Windows.
I'm updating them whole the time on the Linux since I have AMDs GPU and I'm desperate for performance improvements.
Are you using the open source driver or the proprietary driver?
Steam Hardware Survey For May 2014, Linux Falls Short Of Last Month
By Deformal, 1 June 2014 at 3:11 pm UTC
Without AAA games on Linux I don`t see reasons for growing of number Linux gamers. Not huge number of bad indie, but 20-30 powerful AAA games and some strong indie, like ARMA 3 and Red Orcherstra 2.
I think, autumn 2014 and 2015 will change position of linux in the whole gaming.
Civ V and Civ Beyond Earth, Gauntlet, Killing Floor 2, XCOM EU, project CARS, Rome 2 Total war, CS GO, Metro Redux and some more games can give huge acceleration for Linux gaming. Without them - Linux is OS for geeks.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 2:56 pm UTC
Quoting: liamdawe
Quoting: Xpander
Quoting: XilLiam, 26% of the windows systems are still windows XP, so no, people don't update their drivers, for the masses out there windows auto-update and a virus scanner is as far as they get, so I think he is right.

As for the rest of his comments, his lack of insight says enough I guess
but we are talking about gamers.. probably 10 gamers in world use windows xp now a days.

facebook gamers dont count
Pretty much what I came here to say. I stand by my words, gamers generally know how to update drivers and most likely do.

As for Windows XP, you can update drivers on that, so just being on Windows XP means nothing other than not forking out for a new Windows license.

its not about you can't update drivers on XP, its about the fact people still use it and those same people really don't upgrade their drivers.

we not talking unreal engine here, we talking unity engine and big big share of that is casual gamers and casual games do not upgrade their drivers. We talking people who why a Dell or HP, turn it on and thats it, the Dell/HP software might patch a bit as will windows update, but they won't go to any Nvidia/ADM site and download the latest drivers.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By , 1 June 2014 at 2:10 pm UTC
No, I've never updated my drivers on the windows. There is actually statistics about it that show that not many people update GPU drivers on Windows.
I'm updating them whole the time on the Linux since I have AMDs GPU and I'm desperate for performance improvements.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By SXX, 1 June 2014 at 1:59 pm UTC
Quoting: Xpanderfacebook gamers dont count
Facebook gamers it's big portion of Unity3D end-users.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By Liam Dawe, 1 June 2014 at 1:59 pm UTC
Quoting: Xpander
Quoting: XilLiam, 26% of the windows systems are still windows XP, so no, people don't update their drivers, for the masses out there windows auto-update and a virus scanner is as far as they get, so I think he is right.

As for the rest of his comments, his lack of insight says enough I guess
but we are talking about gamers.. probably 10 gamers in world use windows xp now a days.

facebook gamers dont count

Pretty much what I came here to say. I stand by my words, gamers generally know how to update drivers and most likely do.

As for Windows XP, you can update drivers on that, so just being on Windows XP means nothing other than not forking out for a new Windows license.
A Developer Of Unity3D Also Speaks Out About OpenGL
By Xpander, 1 June 2014 at 1:51 pm UTC Likes: 1
Quoting: XilLiam, 26% of the windows systems are still windows XP, so no, people don't update their drivers, for the masses out there windows auto-update and a virus scanner is as far as they get, so I think he is right.

As for the rest of his comments, his lack of insight says enough I guess

but we are talking about gamers.. probably 10 gamers in world use windows xp now a days.

facebook gamers dont count
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