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News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By omeganebula, 12 Nov 2025 at 11:33 pm UTC

With the Steam Machine, I think their goal is performance-parity with PS5 and Xbox Series X, just as Steam Deck was a Switch competitor, and didn't try to be the beefiest PC handheld that was possible at that time. PS5, Xbox Series X are still receiving the brand-new high-budget games with fixed graphical presets, and (correct me if I'm wrong) it seems like the Steam Machine is in the same ballpark, and that's the point in my opinion, not to be a high-end gaming PC. It will probably have aggressive pricing, just like the Deck. Also, if they drop it soon enough with competitive pricing then GTA 6 alone could attract massive sales. Many people are planning to buy a new gaming device just because of GTA 6, and the Steam Machine with almost full access (except most kernel-level anti-cheat games) to the Steam library, free online services, and massive, frequent sales, sounds like a better deal than a new console with zero games and subscriptions.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By harfield, 12 Nov 2025 at 11:20 pm UTC

Like pretty much everyone here, the new Steam Controller is a day-one buy for me. But honestly, I'm a bit worried about that 8 GB of VRAM. I’ve got an ONEXGPU with 8 GB too, and while it runs most games fine at 1080p (and even 1440p with some upscaling), it already starts to struggle a bit in stuff like Doom TDA at 1080p medium.

I really loved Doom TDA and had an awesome time playing it, but honestly, it doesn’t look that amazing for how much VRAM it eats up. When you think about what devs could pull off with 256 MB fifteen years ago, it’s kind of crazy. Still, that’s just where we are now: 8 GB is gonna feel tight, especially once Unreal Engine 5 becomes the norm.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By GustyGhost, 12 Nov 2025 at 10:49 pm UTC

Valve had better fix their "SteamOS + Linux" search category before these things hit shelves!

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Lofty, 12 Nov 2025 at 10:48 pm UTC

The thing I liked least about the original Steam Controller was that g'damn haptic pad. It was never a pleasant experience to use. So I'm a bit concerned when I see two of them and everything else shoved to the top.

So yeah, I'm skeptical.

but .. without the haptic pads the steam controller is essentially just a regular game controller without a dpad, so you just buy a regular controller idk.

also the worst thing wasn't the pads it was the haptics used as a horrible version of rumble which unless im mistaken this is going to be (possibly updated and better idk) the same situation. ohh not to mention the hollow feeling and the obnoxiously loud buttons making it impossible to use at night without waking up the whole house.

so actually the mouse haptics / gyro was the best bit emoji

( and the whole point ! )

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Nezchan, 12 Nov 2025 at 10:40 pm UTC

The thing I liked least about the original Steam Controller was that g'damn haptic pad. It was never a pleasant experience to use. So I'm a bit concerned when I see two of them and everything else shoved to the top.

So yeah, I'm skeptical.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By RavenWings, 12 Nov 2025 at 10:32 pm UTC

Since the Frame and Controller are pretty much exactly what I was hoping for, for the past few hours I've mostly been thinking about the Steam Machine and the concept and implications of the set as a whole (including the Deck and my own Gaming Rig).

If it all works as well as it could and should, it does not feel like the future. It feels more like the present, finally delivered.

I like that.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Lofty, 12 Nov 2025 at 9:55 pm UTC

yea the VR headset looks really good. especially with the ability to side load APK's.


The controller on the other hand looks like it was designed with Ai. Im not sure how you are meant to analogue pad game and reach for the a,b,x,y buttons without hitting the right thumbstick. In fact, it looks like the trackpads are for making it easier to navigate the Linux desktop from the couch rather than to be used for FPS games (which the OG steam controller did quite well if you got it setup right).

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Salvatos, 12 Nov 2025 at 9:53 pm UTC

Those specs don't mean much to me since I've always only used Intel and Nvidia hardware, but if the price is right, I might revise my decision not to upgrade my gaming gear for several years and get a Steam Machine just to support the effort. It's at least better than my 1050 Ti for VRAM, probably a better CPU, and it would make room on my main SSD if I gamed on a separate device.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Taros, 12 Nov 2025 at 9:49 pm UTC

Really looking forward to the VR headset. The Index is the only reason I still have Windows installed on a second SSD xD

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Anza, 12 Nov 2025 at 9:43 pm UTC

Frame seems to provide meaningful upgrade to Index with the wireless. My tether is already quite tangled...

Though will probably wait for a review or two to see how it works in practice.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Lofty, 12 Nov 2025 at 9:28 pm UTC

Is this correct ? The Steam machine's GPU is around a rx7500xt albeit with some extra VRAM and clocks speed, so like a 7560xt variant or something ?

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image courtesy of TechPowerUp
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7500-xt.c4116


I guess the price will be the factor but that GPU seems kind of low end, if the chart i linked is anything go go by that's GeForce GTX 970, Radeon R9 290X performance, and only 4% faster than a AMD RX570 released in 2017 (also with 8gb models). I know energy efficiency is way better now and drivers + raytracing are a thing (if a low end card can manage RT at all properly that is) But it still seems this is primed to be a couch / indie box for casuals.. which is fine i guess.


edit* forgot to add

1. the headset looks really nice for streaming to from your main PC. Given that it is an ARM device i assume it will also be possible to run Artemis/Apollo App on the thing eventually for greater control PC->Headset configuration vs the remoteplay[steamlink] app from Valve. Great specs and no lighthouses needed it seems which is a major plus.

2. Not sure how you can reach the A,B,X,Y easily without banging the right thumbstick when using Analogue mode. It kind of looks like it was designed with Ai if im honest. But time will tell when reviewers get their hands on it.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Tevur, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:55 pm UTC

HDMI 2.0 can do 4K 120 Hz 4:2:0

Right, but HDMI 2.0 can't do FreeSync
I suppose, it's just an error when they copypasted the stuff in the table

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By simplyseven, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:38 pm UTC

I have been looking for any indicators on pricing for these. PCGamer had an article on the controller.

From the [article](https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/controllers/steam-controller-specs-availability-hands-on/):

I've used the new Steam Controller at Valve HQ and I'm glad to report all the buttons are in the right place. It feels comfortable, easy to use, and importantly, there's no learning curve. It's made from that same black plastic that anyone who has used modern Valve hardware will recognise(sic). It doesn't feel cheap, certainly not as cheap as the original controller, but it doesn't feel high-end, either. I'm hopeful this means a reasonable price tag—$5 might be pushing it, but affordable to match the Deck nevertheless.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Breeze, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:27 pm UTC

How is that possible? 4k@120Hz is possible via DSC but no VRR/FreeSync.
These are HDMI 2.1 specs, which doesn't work on Linux-AMD-Systems.

HDMI 2.0 can do 4K 120 Hz 4:2:0, 4K 120 Hz 4:4:4 requires HDMI 2.1.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Mohandevir, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:21 pm UTC

I'm just happy that I held off from buying a new controller. I nearly gave in, last week. The Steam Controller is going to be an instabuy.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By RavenWings, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:17 pm UTC

If I end up buying the Steam Machine, my very first step after booting will be changing the startup video to this:
https://steamdeckrepo.com/post/6YWNE/valve_gabecube

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Breeze, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:16 pm UTC

Steam Controller is day 1 buy.
I'll probably buy the Steam Frame if I get a bonus or something at work.
The Steam Machine depends on price. In most cases, with the exception of consoles, the price is higher than building it yourself.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Liemaeu, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:13 pm UTC

Standalone VR headset + streaming from PC option sounds great!

But I don't understand why you announce gaming devices with just 16GB RAM in 2025. Some games are already recommending 32GB. It's odd to save so little money for a potential game killer in the next 1-2 years (since at least the VR headset is probably not upgradable).

But great to see SteamOS on all devices!

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By GoEsr, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:05 pm UTC

I'm assuming you can use keyboard and mouse for the non-VR games. I try to avoid controllers when they're not absolutely required.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By Tevur, 12 Nov 2025 at 8:00 pm UTC

Woah woah woah, wait...
Gabecube Specs:
HDMI 2.0

Up to 4K @ 120Hz
Supports HDR, FreeSync, and CEC

How is that possible? 4k@120Hz is possible via DSC but no VRR/FreeSync.
These are HDMI 2.1 specs, which doesn't work on Linux-AMD-Systems.

Oh, and the controller in red, please, thx!

And Steam Frame needs Lighthouse support. Can't remove the stations here, there are ugly holes in the wall behind them!

News - KDE Plasma 6.6 to get a great new feature - limit virtual desktops to the primary screen
By GoEsr, 12 Nov 2025 at 7:59 pm UTC

Hopefully this will eventually be fully unlocked to work on any screen we choose.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By dpanter, 12 Nov 2025 at 7:53 pm UTC

D-Pad IN THE CORRECT LOCATION, I'm getting one! Finally emoji

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By MrBelles, 12 Nov 2025 at 7:53 pm UTC

Alright, we're in the business to win big! I wish the best for these products pricewise!

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By kaktuspalme, 12 Nov 2025 at 7:41 pm UTC

Nice! I'm interested in all 3 of those. Steam Controller will be an instant buy. Will be interesting to see how successfull it will be.

News - KDE Plasma 6.6 to get a great new feature - limit virtual desktops to the primary screen
By tpau, 12 Nov 2025 at 7:40 pm UTC

I still hope for a way to split an ultrawide screen in two virtual monitors so i can have a game in 16:9 on the left side and chat on the right side.
Right now having custom regions and boxes with shortcuts and scripts that resize and move them feels too complex.

News - Valve reveal the new Steam Frame, Steam Controller and Steam Machine with SteamOS
By mr-victory, 12 Nov 2025 at 7:30 pm UTC

About 8 GB VRAM I'm confused. Is it an APU or a discrete GPU

Most likely dGPU, if it wasn't I guess there wouldn't be seperate RAM and VRAM. Interesting choice.
The whole machine is somewhat similar to my PC, RDNA3 GPU with 6c12t Zen4 is also what I have in my PC, but coupled with more VRAM and RAM.