Quoting: CatKiller

Quoting: AussieEeveeI can fully understand not wanting to spend the time and resources to make a native port.

They already spent those resources. The Stadia version uses Vulkan and runs on Linux.

If they have, then it seems silly not to use that version to support the Deck.

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I can fully understand not wanting to spend the time and resources to make a native port. That is okay. We don't need native ports.

But threatening a ban on players that manage to get the game running under proton is just scummy, Bungie and that makes you one of the scummiest companies in the industry.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: AussieEeveeHonestly, I am not a fan of when people say something is "the future". Especially in the Linux space, where choice is key.

Personally, I will keep using Xorg and Pulseaudio.

No one is taking choice away, I really don't get why you would even remotely think that. Use whatever you want.

That's what calling it the future means. It means that "This will be the standard going forward".

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Honestly, I am not a fan of when people say something is "the future". Especially in the Linux space, where choice is key.

Personally, I will keep using Xorg and Pulseaudio.

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualTechnically, GOG is completely correct. Their native Linux builds don't officially support Arch Linux or the new SteamOS, which is a derivative of that distribution. They support Ubuntu. They can't guarantee support for an OS they've never tested their games for.

Is there really enough of a difference between an Arch derivative and an ubuntu one to worry about? I mean, obviously their client isn't going to need the package manager.

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you can install Windows

Rude. GoG is officially off my Christmas card list.

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I love this game. Glad to see it still getting updates.

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Mine is 4% xD

But 92% is marked as unknown, which as you said doesn't mean anything.

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Quoting: Lambida

Quoting: AussieEeveeIs anyone actually asking for ports though? It takes a lot less development time and energy to support the game through Proton/Lutris/etc than it does to make a native port. Your game does NOT have to be native to be Linux compatible.

Yes, it does.
I don't play lazy-arse "compatibility layer suported" games.
I use my money to invest in GNU/Linux native gaming.

The faster we kill Microsoft, the better use of computer resources we will have in the future.
Windows gaming only exists because they hold the largest share of the market, but Windows should be droped by everyone ASAP.

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In regards to the company's move, as someone said here, they took an interest free loan from GNU/Linux users. We are also a more envolved community, so they also beneffited from free mouth-to-mouth advertisement from us fools.

if you are waiting for the day when native linux gaming is a thing, it'll never happen. We get a few native games but there will never be a day when all games are native.

and i'm okay with that. the goal isn't to kill Microsoft. The goal is to have a pleasant and playable alternate gaming pc platform. Thats what Proton does.

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: AussieEevee

Quoting: Guest

Quoting: AussieEeveeIs anyone actually asking for ports though? It takes a lot less development time and energy to support the game through Proton/Lutris/etc than it does to make a native port. Your game does NOT have to be native to be Linux compatible.

Wouldn't be as much of a problem if the game was wrapped up in wine and officially supported in that manner. This is what System Shock does. Still need to know how to properly bundle wine in with it however, and that's under the assumption there aren't any runtime problems.

I do like the idea of bundling it with wine, but they don't even need to do that to release on Steam, as Steam Play integrates wine though proton.

It'd still take a little bit of developer time and energy, of course but far far far less than making a native port.

In that case, Valve is shouldering the support burden, but having such support outside the control of a developer isn't always a good idea. Basically if it doesn't work then customers are more likely to blame the developer rather than Valve, and that's not a desirable situation for the developer.
Also, not everybody buys their games through Steam, and companies might actually want to offer games outside of Steam (GOG, itch.io, direct sales, etc). The more direct to the developer, the better - particularly for small indie devs.
End of the day, support is the keyword.

i don't have an answer to the support question, but i do think tweaking the games to fix wine compatibility issues is the way to go.

i also hope other game stores adopt proton, which would solve your other note.

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Quoting: Guest

Quoting: AussieEeveeIs anyone actually asking for ports though? It takes a lot less development time and energy to support the game through Proton/Lutris/etc than it does to make a native port. Your game does NOT have to be native to be Linux compatible.

Wouldn't be as much of a problem if the game was wrapped up in wine and officially supported in that manner. This is what System Shock does. Still need to know how to properly bundle wine in with it however, and that's under the assumption there aren't any runtime problems.

I do like the idea of bundling it with wine, but they don't even need to do that to release on Steam, as Steam Play integrates wine though proton.

It'd still take a little bit of developer time and energy, of course but far far far less than making a native port.

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