Quoting: JustinWoodHopefully this reaches you before it's too late: This is quite possibly the worst entry in the entire series. There is very little retained from the first game, much less the second. Play as anyone sounds good on paper but ultimately results in a story that relies on the antagonist(s) and supporting cast of defined characters since trying to create depth in characters that could be anyone is close to impossible.

Too late bro', but thanks for your feedback!
My impressions after just an introductory couple of hours: I was a bit surprised on how different it was from Watch Dogs 2. I really loved the crew in WD2 (although I could have wished for character DEVELOPMENT during the game), and I see your point about building a more generic crew like here.

Still, I have to say that I at least in PRINCIPLE applaud attempts of trying something NEW. I like that. This recruitment part is very similar to what we find in strategic games like Xcom, and I dig those games.
And I LOVE the British accents, regardless of how exaggerated they are!

What I don't like (thus far) is how it seems there's no skill trees anymore, very little character development/customisation (as far as I can tell thus short into the game), it's all about finding the character with the skill sets we want. But again - I can adapt to that, I totally can. It's great fun to scan and check out potential recruitment, so I think I might grow into liking this.

Another thing I don't like is that this is set a bit too far into the future, and in a quite corny way. Like that AI that has all those one-liners and "funny" attitude while everyone are looking at a animated... Logo? It's just silly. I also dislike how simple it is to hack ANYTHING, I wish it was just one tiny step closer to realism, but oh well. Plus the "superpowers" of at least one of the special characters... This is not a superhero game, ffs...

All in all, this depends heavily on the story evolving, and how much of a story and personality they've been able to insert into the characters.

First impressions are overall good, but then again it usually is like that with Ubisoft games - then around mid-game they tend to fall apart in repetitions.
We'll see how this fares. :)

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Oh wow! I thought I'd never come, this is fantastic news for me. I LOVED watch Dogs 2.

Instabuy. The next good handful of weeks gaming content is settled.

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It has been my impression that most games with launchers have a "skip-launcher" launch option, starting straight into the game?

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Quoting: dvdWell, the driving is totally broken (yes, like Saints Row 2 broken or even more)

It was really bad on launch. But the driving mechanics has been greatly improved and the current state is imo totally acceptable for a game that's not a racing game at all. It's totally fine now in my honest opinion, in a kind of a goofy GTA-light arkade way.

Quoting: dvdthe gameplay is uninteresting

And this is the core of the problem for you, imo. If you think that is uninteresting there's nothing that could have saved this game for you. Personally I have a lot of fun in the game, I really do enjoy the battles more than the typical action RPG style game, where I find them to be more or less an obstacle to traverse.

I do agree with you on the difficulty arc though - around half-way you get almost godlike if you spend the skill points with SOME rationality.

But the way I see it, this is a game that's not for the gameplay challenges, but the experience of the story. The story of V and his/her encounters. It's not supposed to be a game where you grind or retry bosses over and over. You're supposed to experience the story more or less uninterrupted, unless you do something really stupid.

And the story, and especially the characters... Well for me that's what this game is about. The moments with those different characters, their fleshed out personalities, the intricate relationships, the many dialogues and mission moments that makes you think.

I just simply LOVE this game.

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Quoting: dvdIt's a bad game, and the 1.6 patch is still buggy.

If you honestly think it's a bad game (and you've actually played it) then you'd think so regardless of the very very minor bugs that may still be present since logically you can't possibly like the content itself - of whom you of course are in every right to not do, just like I never really got into Skyrim.

But don't present that opinion like it's a fact.

As for me I have ~400 hours in that game, multiple playthroughs - and I usually never play a game more than once. It's the best game I've played since... Since the Bioware heydays. I still love exploring the map, it's the first game where I *never* use fast travel. I much rather just take the bike to the destination and enjoy the travel.

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Quoting: dpanterCyberpunk 2077 should get the award for most developer abuse and bugs both at launch and post-one million patches.

When did you last play the game, and on what platform?

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I'm just happy that CP2077 finally get some recognision for being the really good game that I think it is, and has been for a long time.

Yes, the consoles were given a version of the game that's been in a sea of problems. That was bad.
But the PC version has been totally playable ever since just a few patches after launch, and only improved from there. Not only bug fixes but tweaks and improvements and additional content aplenty.

And that CDPR kept cool and kept going after THAT shitstorm, well I don't see all devs able to do that.

Now we only awaits the CP2077 DLC this year - that's gonna be xmas all over again :)

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Quoting: FauconNoirMy wish is a more polished SteamVR Linux version.

Whats your main issues? For me it seems to work as intended... But I am no advanced user.

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My top 3:
- Linux to break 3% - it might actually happen this year.
- Anti-cheat woes - it's SO frustrating with all those great games not working only because of this.
- Valve hardware to get a distributor also in my country (Norway) - we've been excluded from the good company for too long now.

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Quoting: ShabbyXHowever, correlation does not necessarily imply causation. I'd argue that these stand out not _because_ they are exclusive, but rather they were made exclusive because they stand out. I.e. Sony paid them to be exclusive because they are great games. They could have been just as awesome if cross-platform.

That's not exactly how it works: The developers of exclusive titles on Playstation are largely owned by Sony (exceptions being mostly Japanese devs because of Sony's dominance there). They work for Sony to make games for their platform.
But of course, they are damn good developers, that's why they were acquired by Sony in the first place. So your point about correlation not implying causation does theoretically still stand.

And I guess this is where this dialogue must conclude: I believe this correlation to not be accidental, while you will insist that it is.
I'd argue it's not like there's no equally or better development houses outside the Sony sphere. The correlation - to me - is the closest evidence of causation I can come up with, because the difference is so consistent. I claim they utilize the hardware better since they can focus on one specific stack. Just like any specialized software would do, really. And that's where we'll stand.

Oh well - thanks for a nice dialogue and a happy new year to you and whoever else that might be reading these ramblings. May it bring great new gaming moments, both native and via Proton!

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