Quoting: Purple Library GuyUh . . . the way of the future, I'm sure. This is how we'll get all those Windows and Mac users into the fold--letting them define their system through a config file! Yup, I feel so archaic now. :tongue:

You don't need to go full advanced mode on it. There are many people who uses Bazzite as SteamOS replacement (I'd argue it's already better than current SteamOS). In fact, I got into uBlue as a whole by installing Fedora Silverblue and then, with a single rpm-ostree rebase command, changed to uBlue's images. You can basically change distro and DEs without manual reinstall or cleanups.

Universal Blue is Fedora Atomic made usable, and SteamOS but actually supported for more hardware (they have specific images for Nvidia, Framework, ROG Ally, Legion GO, etc). And then you can just layer more stuff in, either locally, or if you're an advanced user in a cloud-native manner via GitHub (I always get a kick how I'm basically using Microsoft infrastructure to build me a distro for my personal use and backups).

Edit: Chris Titus covered it recently - https://youtu.be/wdC_qiFoHN4 [External Link]

NixOS is the new Arch - obviously, new users shouldn't use it, but it offers a lot of power that most distributions just cannot offer any time soon. The ability to define a stable channel as your main channel and then define unstable or specific version (down to the commit) per packages or configs, and they don't conflict. Everything is in a config file, so a NixOS-based 'distro' really can just be people sharing their config file.

It's so powerful I'm using it to sync packages (including Flatpak) between all my machines, including the non-NixOS ones. Again, it wasn't easy to learn at first, but if you've been using Linux for a few years? It's worth looking into at least Nix Home-Manager because it really can do so many things.

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For me, Ubuntu and anything Ubuntu-based just feels archaic. I've hopped on the NixOS and Universal Blue (Bazzite and Bluefin/Aurora primarily) train, and nowadays I can just define my system through a config file. uBlue goes even further with enabling creating whole distro image and ISOs with all of my configs in it.

I haven't needed to think about system updates in a while. Even in the case of something having a problem, I haven't needed to worry about anything breaking. When I saw Matt from The Linux Cast talking about reinstalling your distro to have a clean experience, I outright found it cavemen-like because... why not just check what's layered in `rpm-ostree status` and then re-layer what's necessary after an `rpm-ostree reset` (assuming you even layer anything, instead of adding things declaratively in your Blue Build image creator github repo).

Mind, I still need to do `cd ~/.config/home-manager ; nix flake update ; home-manager switch -b bak ; distrobox enter arch -- paru -Syyu --skipreview --noconfirm` every now and then (really need to make that a script file in my home-manager), but that's like... maaaybe if I feel like it? And doesn't impact my main system. I don't know, my current setup allows me to not really think about the underlying system I have, and anything else that I have to actively manage feels like a downgrade.

Oh, and I use KDE, I guess. Not that it really matters, changing DE is just an `rpm-ostree rebase` or a single line change in NixOS config away. It was a bit of a heavy learning at first, but it was well worth the time investment IMHO.

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Quoting: Pikolo

Quoting: SpurlosI wonder if every bit will fail in the right place for the OS like Ubuntu 24.04 LTS to get it working, or people who are stuck with LTS releases would have to wait for another two years to get everything in the main repos?

I'm afraid this is too late for 24.04 - maybe for 24.10?

It'll probably make 24.10, but the damage will be done in terms of LTS support. That's the biggest drawback of the LTS approach, although I was a big advocate until a couple of years ago. The stability was epic, and you still got decent updates through PPA updates. But not all the shiny updates, sadly. Maybe they'll backport, but it's more likely to go on hold, at least until they do that HWE update thing they pitch every year or so.

Yeah, I wish NixOS has an official LTS channel - you can already do multiple nixpkgs channels with flakes, but they only really focus on latest Stable and Unstable.

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Quoting: drjomsDoes Proton use SDL at all?

I'm pretty sure many aspect of Steam itself, including the client and the game overlay, uses SDL. I don't know if Proton itself uses it, but I'm pretty sure the thing that interacts with it and the thing it interacts with uses SDL or interacts with SDL themselves.

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Quoting: nwildnerWayland is being around for the last 15 years so, need to push it hard or it will never replace the already bloated and hard to maintain X11.

Sounds to me that it doesn't really have a benefit to the end user, otherwise it would have been adopted much faster. I understand it's a necessity for developers, because X11 is dated and the code is in bad shape, but for everyone else it's apparently doing the job just fine.

So to me the question is, is there anything I'm missing out on when using X11? HDR support, maybe? (not that I'd have a HDR-capable display). In short, what's the incentive to switch from a user perspective?

New stuff are built on Wayland. If you're fine with x11, sure, just use it. If some of the things happening on Wayland interests you, you can switch. The idea is that we're pushing for Wayland where we can, so that eventually it gets to the point where users who uses x11 can eventually switch to it without noticing many issues. Eventually.

For me, I'm looking forward to the remote desktop portal - input-remapper already made mapping keys on my MMO-style mouse easier, so it was one less reason for me to drag my feet in moving to Wayland and be done with it, but remote desktop portal would genuinely have made me switch because being able to just install a remote desktop app (Rustdesk) from Flathub and it just working is appealing. Though honestly I already can't switch back to x11 because I cannot be arsed to set up touchpad gestures now that KDE Wayland come with it by default.

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These are the kind of pressure we need to make Wayland better for more people. It's good enough for some people right now, but for others it's a no-go.

It's fine for me now, but man do I have a lot of protocols and portals I'm still waiting to see merged.

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Quoting: nwildnerNot redundant. It is a "replacement" (read with a grain of salt here) for the nouveau driver, but focused on GSP enabled GPUS that don't have to deal with the legacy nouveau has to implement to handle older than RTX2000 series hardware.

It is a kernel driver(dri, pci, iomem, common abstractions for hardware) and not a translation layer or 3D API whatsoever.

Hm... and the NVK isn't a kernel driver? I think it's in Mesa, so does that mean it's the userspace driver? Sorry, really don't know about the details - all I've been hearing is about how NVK is supposed to be a replacement for Nouveau.

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Okay, I'm confused here - is this redundant with NVK and what other aspect of this vs NVK that I'm not understanding that would make the project make sense as it's own thing despite the great progress that NVK has made in recent months?

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> RE:D Cherish!

Based. Still salty Tsujidou-san fandisc won over it and Tsuriotsu, but it's alwayd good to know that there are based people working on Wine.

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mfw manga fans takes more precautions when they're not even fighting Nintendo by just rehosting Tachiyomi as Mihon on Gitea.

At this point, just run gitea and host it on Russia or China or something.

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