If you ever need a good casual single player game to pootle around on whilst watching your favorite streamer this is it. I have a lot of fun dipping into this game from time to time. It should be a great fit for the Steam Deck.

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Quoting: EikeI wonder (and hope) if those who cared for Linux the last years have sort of a harvest now with Steam Deck.

You reap what you Sow. Ardent Linux followers deserve a healthy crop.

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Quoting: denyasisI don't see the os being that big of an issue. Both will autostart with steam, which will run in BPM or something. Both os's can do that with no issue. Ideally, if this thing is meant to be a success, the average user shouldn't even notice or care about the OS, just like every other console.

Running windows on this won't be the same as steam deck as running windows on a PC vs Linux is not the same. In fact it's much worse running windows day to day than running Linux on the desktop IMO (and yes i experience both daily) ultimate compatibility aside there are on windows a surprising amount of video driver regressions,
Example: recently R6 siege got an update and the game became a stuttery mess on AMD, a game that can run 200- 300fps no problem on decent hardware, its very normal for gamers to revert to older video drivers on windows as has been historically the case where as on Linux you almost never do this. Then there are endless updates sometimes requiring a lenghy shutdown process. pop-ups & addware, UI oddities, and of course processes that don't need to be running that will slow the device down. And of course, lets not patronize the average user a lot at the time did actually care about disabling telemetry as that is a reason why so many people stuck on windows 7 for so long.. very much why the xbox kinect failed due to privacy concerns. These days i suspect less people care, but it's still something to look out for you would have the full telemetry suite of software running on windows alongside whatever cortana is called these days listening into the decks in built Microphone ( maybe valve will exploit this too, but at least on Linux you can be more sure you disabled the option on KDE and it is off ). Ohh and you would of course need to supply microsoft with an email and i believe is it now a telephone number they want also and the list goes on.. Not exactly a "plug and play console" thats what the XBOX is for.

Quoting: ShabbyXWhile _some_ would inevitably do it (like some inevitably install Linux on anything that computes), I'm not too worried. It'd be a miserable experience IMO. Windows is not attempting to make itself look like a console, so it'll give pop ups, update at the worst times etc. Some might bear it to have more games, but it will definitely remove the nice just-pick-it-up-and-game feeling.

agree. You buy a console handheld to take the arse ache out of the PC gaming setup experience, that's why the switch is so popular.

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Quoting: slaapliedjeMy other worry is all the people that will just buy this and install Windows on it... seems to defeat the purpose of the Deck for me; as who wants to deal with another Windows install...

im becoming less concerned about this tbh. Sure there will be a glut of tutorials on how to do this and benchmarks that show windows in front by 5-10% (they will cherry pick a bad example of game that's 30% in front or EA / anti-cheat titles). In the end it is an open device and people are free to put what they want on this, if they choose winblow's then that's their loss, certainly their loss of privacy for one, not to mention the originality & OEM presentation that steam deck brings.

And although exclusives is a dirty word around here, that doesn't mean we can't have steam deck performance optimizations that don't get picked up when running the windows version of the game, or UI / control changes that are also missing due to the way a game might detect the deck on windows. Let alone all the background ((spy.. cough)) processes that windows runs that Arch Linux is not (and that wide open Microphone). Or even the power saving kernal updates from AMD that the windows version might not have. As for that dirty word 'exclusives' well if a game is designed for the steam deck because of it's form factor there again might be room for some titles made on Linux that are not 'exclusive' but will run better on Native Linux.

Each to their own, but il be sticking with Linux on the Steam Deck.

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You know, i think this is going to be a mid/long term success. But there will undoubtedly be people who are just miserable contrarians who will try to throw shade on the deck even at the slightest issue, and i think it's pretty obvious there will be many bumps in the road for this device given what it is trying to do. Hopefully we won't see too many low IQ click / rage bait videos from people with no scruples trying to make bank being unfair or deceitful.

Longer term we should expect a steam-deck 2.

(Actually can we get a steam controller 2 please whilst we are at it )

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Quoting: robertosf92maybe it's a stupid question, but... what exactly does integration mean?
Will it be able to have a single install of origin and launch the various games using game specific configurations?

Good question.

Quoting: GuestIt means you can view, install and launch your Origin games directly from Lutris, it will open Origin in the background if the game needs it open, and should shut it down when you exit the game, like it does with Steam.

imho not really a great achievement that you can press install or launch button. I get that you might say there are several platforms in one launcher but in actuality for several of them lutris is just acting as a 'button', at least at the moment. Origin itself is still a complete mess in itself and still needs to be run with the same mouse click you spend on lutris instead, let alone it being your typical bloated 3rd party spyware.

I really think the word 'integration' is being slightly over used here with many of these launchers.

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Quoting: rustybroomhandleI originally bought this on Desura. RIP

wow that's a blast from the past. I remember liking Desura.

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I recently gave KDE a try after many years on the cinnamon desktop environment to experience some of the more flashy features seen as cinnamon has fallen way behind in that regard. I was not disappointed here, things like animated wallpapers are really cool and being able to play a gif independently on each monitor. Not to mention all kinds of transparency, blurs and effect choices.

But .. I can't say it went well really, neither on an Ubuntu base or fresh Arch install. Whats remarkable is how well KDE recovers from a crash, whats not remarkable is how often it has to recover from a crash. By crash i mean the panel resetting when you attempt to move widgets or reposition items, for instance dragging widgets to a second monitor could trip up KDE very easily but not consistently. plus a myriad of oddball 'paper cuts' And that is the same feeling i got for KDE for the last 15 years = lack of consistency.

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" 56 bugs right off the bat, three of which are session-enders " i mean that's hilarious. They should of been doing this kind of work years ago. But id wager, that after this initiative ends and the dust settles, in two years time there will be "56 bugs right off the bat, three of which are session-enders ".
imho It's just not a solid feeling environment like the 'dull' GTK alternatives, it kind of feels like it's always waiting to crash and when you stray from defaults expect faults .. hey that could be KDE's new moto.

(to be fair i think you could apply this to Gnome aswell, but only because Gnome devs make it intentionally that way)

Of course Everyone's mileage will vary. Each to their own.

BTW Wayland on Nvidia was a train wreck and much worse than I remember Gnome being.

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Think about the timing on this given the current market and the product itself. Nvidia never cease with their unending arrogance towards their customer base.

But, its not so much a problem lets see where Nvidia stand vs the competition..

AMD = PS5 (probably PS6)
AMD = Xbox one X
AMD = Xbox one s
AMD = Google Stadia
AMD = Valve Steam Deck
AMD = AYA Neo
AMD = GPD WIN MAX
AMD = ONEXPLAYER AMD

The majority rest of gaming devices are Intel iGPU. In fact with Intel XE on the way, and lots of excitement around RDNA2 APU's with 3D-V-cache + DDR5 i don't actually see a reason at all to get excited about Nvidia releases.
And finally, if this market keeps on being stacked towards the ultra high end then lets not forget how value orientated (and compatible) xbox game pass is and how cheap an xbox one S is currently sitting around $250/£250 which can do 1080p/120 , 1440p-60, 4k-30 with a library of hundreds of free AAA games.

edit* i forgot to add to the list the new co-developed AMD-Samsung Gaming Phone / Tablets...

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I wonder if it would of been better (as in better than the situation we have now) if Valve had forced a VAC requirement on all games that wanted to use anti-cheat solution sold on steam. I trust VAC more than EAC and you at least wouldn't be in the big mess we have now, besides you would already be on steam and it would be less invasive. I don't think it should be a requirement for those game that don't need or want an anti-cheat. Your software your choice I guess.

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