Quoting: NezchanThe thing I liked least about the original Steam Controller was that g'damn haptic pad. It was never a pleasant experience to use. So I'm a bit concerned when I see two of them and everything else shoved to the top.

So yeah, I'm skeptical.

but .. without the haptic pads the steam controller is essentially just a regular game controller without a dpad, so you just buy a regular controller idk.

also the worst thing wasn't the pads it was the haptics used as a horrible version of rumble which unless im mistaken this is going to be (possibly updated and better idk) the same situation. ohh not to mention the hollow feeling and the obnoxiously loud buttons making it impossible to use at night without waking up the whole house.

so actually the mouse haptics / gyro was the best bit :woot:

( and the whole point ! )

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yea the VR headset looks really good. especially with the ability to side load APK's.

The controller on the other hand looks like it was designed with Ai. Im not sure how you are meant to analogue pad game and reach for the a,b,x,y buttons without hitting the right thumbstick. In fact, it looks like the trackpads are for making it easier to navigate the Linux desktop from the couch rather than to be used for FPS games (which the OG steam controller did quite well if you got it setup right).

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Is this correct ? The Steam machine's GPU is around a rx7500xt albeit with some extra VRAM and clocks speed, so like a 7560xt variant or something ?

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-7500-xt.c4116 [External Link]

I guess the price will be the factor but that GPU seems kind of low end, if the chart i linked is anything go go by that's GeForce GTX 970, Radeon R9 290X performance, and only 4% -10% faster than a AMD RX570 released in 2017 (also with 8gb models). I know energy efficiency is way better now and drivers + raytracing are a thing (if a low end card can manage RT at all properly that is) But it still seems this is primed to be a couch / indie box for casuals.. which is fine of course.

edit* forgot to add

the headset looks really nice for streaming to from your main PC. Given that it is an ARM device i assume it will also be possible to run Artemis/Apollo App on the thing eventually for greater control PC->Headset configuration vs the remoteplay[steamlink] app from Valve. Great specs and no lighthouses needed it seems which is a major plus.

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Quoting: AsciiWolfNo. They should fix the native port. Maybe add a Vulkan renderer if possible. Proton (Wine + DXVK) is a great thing for running Windows games on Linux (SteamOS), but it should not be a replacement solution for actual native ports.

If there already is a native port, it is always better to fix that port (if possible/feasible) instead of just nuking it and relying on the Windows version running using Proton.

yea but no, It was a fairly mid port to say the least. In some circumstances you would be correct when talking about a performant native game released only a few years ago, but in the context of this game topic your not imo.

yet id go further and state that i actually prefer Proton releases over native. for a variety of reasons.

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if you have ever tried to successfully stream using Moonlight/Sunshine or Artemus/Apollo for andriod i don't see much point in a lot of these streaming cloud gaming services. If you use something like tailscale (easy home routing to your external devices using wireguard) you can even play your games from your home PC or well anything that runs on your PC.

i know there are really technically uninterested / illiterate people who you could say would use this but id imagine mobile gaming or a handheld like a switch caters for those individuals. Even a steamdeck is a very low bar of entry to play thousands of games without a subscription with insane games discounts.

im sure someone will come in and correct me shortly, it must be useful to someone right ? like google stadia.

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Quoting: Leahi84Cause this isn't totally going to end up being a disaster for their company that will likely get a massive number of their employees laid off, only for them to desperately want them back as AI runs their company into the ground.

it's too obvious. Someone somewhere is going to make a lot of money off the dip when this company fails. It sucks for all the employees working in these mega corps, but i guess the message to those folks is work for a smaller indie / community focused studio and err.. if you become successful don't become the thing that tried to destroy you and sell out on the next big fad.

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Quoting: KimyrielleAI is less full of crap than pretty much any CEO. It would have been an improvement, really.

at least Ai won't be caught cheating red faced at a music concert with the companies HR manager.

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is .. is, this like, some sort of elaborate scam similar to the dot.com investor bubble ? Where by very wealthy boomer investors who know very little about Ai are being sold a pumped up lie and are putting all their investments into Ai data farms instead of traditional investments, because insiders are telling them that the global economy is going to crash and Ai is where the safe money is at ?

And then said people currently in power are currently speed running towards said predicted crash ? It's almost like the trillionaires are about to rob the Billionaires.

And unfortunately leave the average person in an even worse state economically

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Given the age & performance of the port ( pre proton ? ) they should probably pull it if they are no longer supporting the linux version consistently. Proton's performance now often exceeds native compared with the windows version.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guysnip

Great post.

Do you want me to generate a microphone for you to drop...

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