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Quoting: EikeThat example seems to be quite accurate to me:
The tools used to write the code are not an ingredient of the game. Unlike e.g. the assets. Which seems quite close to what Valve is asking for to be declared.

Obviously, the code the AI is generating is an ingredient of the game. Why should this be exempt from the disclosure?

Really, you're getting the source code of the games?

Yeah, I know, we do get the binary code, which is translated by a compiler from the source code, ...

This is not leading anywhere.

* Developers do use AI to code.
* You cannot find out if they did from the binaries.

It's not worth the discussion.

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Quoting: pbWe have obligatory lists of ingredients on food products, cosmetics, detergents - not only because of allergens, but simply because we (the consumers) have the right to know what kinds of shit went in there, before we buy. I'm not necessarily saying it should be obligatory to disclose the full toolbox used to make a game, but it would certainly be well received and I hope it will become a good practice.

That example seems to be quite accurate to me:
The tools used to write the code are not an ingredient of the game. Unlike e.g. the assets. Which seems quite close to what Valve is asking for to be declared.

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Just read that ChatGPT will start to show ads. They realized that they're not making money. :D

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Wow. Proton/WINE changes for a launcher. What did they do to make a launcher that complicated?

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Quoting: LoudTechieAh, I didn't know that.
That indeed doesn't really lend credibility to my hypothesis.

It would be valid in every other case. :D

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

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Quoting: CorbenIs known how they are putting these games on the store? I'm wondering how it will be labeled, as just "VR" won't be enough anymore. Right now we have (mostly) Windows games that just run on Linux and Steam Deck (if not too demanding, but techically they run). On Linux PC (i.e. x86, amd64 etc.). When VR games are compiled for arm though, will they run on PC too?
Will they create a seperate store/category for arm steam frame VR games?
Will PC VR gamers running HTC Vive, Valve Index etc. be able to play these games too or will they miss out? Is this was Lepton is aiming for, but only for Linux users? Don't get me wrong, the more Linux the better, yet VR is a niche, and if Windows VR gamers would not be able to play those games too, it's a loss.

They might have the restriction that ARM games must be able to run on X86, too, just like there is (AFAIK) a restriction that any Linux native game must be available for Windows, too.

That restriction as far as I am aware does not exist. We've seen Linux-only releases on Steam, and we've also seen Linux+Mac only releases.

I have seen a developer complaining that they're not allowed to do it, and I've never seen someone doing it. Do you have an example?

Could it be their boss forbade them.
Linux isn't a very profitable market yet.

It was a little indie game by a Linux fan, so no bosses involved. :)

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Eike

Quoting: CorbenIs known how they are putting these games on the store? I'm wondering how it will be labeled, as just "VR" won't be enough anymore. Right now we have (mostly) Windows games that just run on Linux and Steam Deck (if not too demanding, but techically they run). On Linux PC (i.e. x86, amd64 etc.). When VR games are compiled for arm though, will they run on PC too?
Will they create a seperate store/category for arm steam frame VR games?
Will PC VR gamers running HTC Vive, Valve Index etc. be able to play these games too or will they miss out? Is this was Lepton is aiming for, but only for Linux users? Don't get me wrong, the more Linux the better, yet VR is a niche, and if Windows VR gamers would not be able to play those games too, it's a loss.

They might have the restriction that ARM games must be able to run on X86, too, just like there is (AFAIK) a restriction that any Linux native game must be available for Windows, too.

That restriction as far as I am aware does not exist. We've seen Linux-only releases on Steam, and we've also seen Linux+Mac only releases.

I have seen a developer complaining that they're not allowed to do it, and I've never seen someone doing it. Do you have an example?

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Quoting: CorbenIs known how they are putting these games on the store? I'm wondering how it will be labeled, as just "VR" won't be enough anymore. Right now we have (mostly) Windows games that just run on Linux and Steam Deck (if not too demanding, but techically they run). On Linux PC (i.e. x86, amd64 etc.). When VR games are compiled for arm though, will they run on PC too?
Will they create a seperate store/category for arm steam frame VR games?
Will PC VR gamers running HTC Vive, Valve Index etc. be able to play these games too or will they miss out? Is this was Lepton is aiming for, but only for Linux users? Don't get me wrong, the more Linux the better, yet VR is a niche, and if Windows VR gamers would not be able to play those games too, it's a loss.

They might have the restriction that ARM games must be able to run on X86, too, just like there is (AFAIK) a restriction that any Linux native game must be available for Windows, too.

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Quoting: ChrisznixI had perfect eyes 40 years long. Then... i suddenly understood all those people that complained that "the light is too dark in here" or arms that grow too short.
The display size is the most limiting factor that prevents me to play anything on the deck, and mostly it comes down to text size. I'm with you on that. 8-)

I do feel you.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPThis is the only important part of the corporate blabla:

urthermore, we won't implement generative AI into our products without prior notice.

So the only thing they are saying is that they'll do it anyway, they'll just tell you about it.

... which I'm fine with. Have an informed decision.

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