Quoting: salamanderrakeThe important question here is, do the boards have PCIe 4.0??? If its 3.0 it is barely forgivable, but if its still at 2.0 AMD is dead to me.

AFAIK, PCI-E 4.0 didn't debut yet. Ryzen features 3.0.

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I wonder if this might become my first AMD CPU after... an Athlon, I guess?
And I wonder even more if I might get my first AMD/ATI GPU later - but I won't compromise on speed here.

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Quoting: Faalagorn@Liam - If you have occasion to go to any gaming convention near your region, it may be the best way to try them out - hell, with you being an owner of a probably most well-known Linux gaming site, you could talk with developers about supporting Linux and write up a few articles from it - I'd be looking forward to it ;).

I don't know where you're living, Liam, but maybe you could visit a game developer to give it a try?

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Quoting: meggermanWhich bit ? The children requring assisance but you cannot percieve them or the potencial intruder ? Id agree the second one is unlikely, hence why i say god forbid. But everyone's situation is different, again not a popular sentiment just some food for thought. I quite like being aware of my surroundings, turning the lights off is enough imersion for me :D

The intruder when someone's at home part. I don't want to adapt my life to very unlikely events. I even walk over streets at times. ;)

When children are awake or may wake up, somebody should be aware of his surroundings, of course. Or the children should be able to get you out from your virtual place at least (depending on age). (VR systems might need some baby phone feature...)

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Quoting: meggermanSomething to think about when you have children ( if they are young ).Wearing a full ski mask and headphones doesnt really encourage a parent to be aware of what's going on in the home, or even worse god forbid a potencial intruder / theif. The first one can be mitigated by only using VR when the kids are asleep but the second one requires you to be comfortable with a reduced sense of external awareness for a period of time.

Sorry that wasnt the glamourous notion of VR people like to hear, then again not everyone is a parent.

I don't know about your part of the world of course, but this is an unrealistic fear where I live.

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Quoting: badberI hate this stupid meme of something not being "real VR" because there is no feature X. We had super low framerate systems with insanely low resolution and absolutely terrible tracking and well still called it VR in the 90s. Motion controls weren't a part of the Oculus Rift for many years. Stop trying to make yourself feel better about your super expensive purchase and accept that there are varying versions of VR.

I feel though that head turn tracking is absolutely necessary for VR.
It's even more important than stereoscopy.
You cannot feel inside if you cannot look around (in a natural way).

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Quoting: bubexelit's ok, yes, but the missing tracking mess all inmersion, it's just a toy comparing with real VR. What make VR inmersive is the full tracking and motion controllers.

I wonder how people could get an idea of what this VR is all about. It seems electronic markets are not going to set up test stations, at least not here. So trying with a mobile might give peopel an idea. Hopefully they don't find it not convincing enough and lack the fantasy to imagine how it feels when done way better. But a colleague of mine stood there with open mouth staring into the virtual world with one... :)

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Quoting: bubexelnevermind about shitty vr mobile phones, it is not real VR. It's just a fake VR to sell phones, stupid 360 videos without stereoscopic.

This is plain wrong.
There is stereoscopic head tracking VR for mobiles. Of course, full-featured VR devices are much better, but mobiles can do way more than non-stereoscopic 360 degree videos.

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Quoting: liamdaweI tried some random iphone VR quite some time ago. One where you slot the phone into a headset and adjust the lenses. Even that was somewhat impressive, so I can't imagine how a Vive must be.

Yes, that's what I meant. I guess it doesn't matter if the carton is made by Google. ;)

Quoting: liamdaweIt's not the fact that it's VR, but having something like that strapped to your face for a long time and the games themselves, that's what I'm keen to put some time and thoughts into.

To be honest, I haven't had more than two demos on a fair, which of course weren't too long. So I can't judge how tring it gets. But it sure was exciting. When I moved my hands to hit something although there weren't any hand controllers yet, I knew immersion was immense...

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I'm not sold on the idea of VR myself, so I am looking forward to eventually being able to try one properly to see if it changes my mind. I've heard good things, so I am looking forward to that day.

Did you try Google Cardboard? It's not "the real thing" of course, but with some fantasy, it gives you an idea of what it feels like.

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