Quoting: Purple Library GuyOr, say the government paid authors

If you don't know it yet...
https://no-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Innkj%C3%B8psordningene_for_litteratur?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp [External Link]

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Quoting: Villian

Quoting: Eike

Valve posted asking people to consider using the official Valve .deb package

Please, please, please, please not!
I'm reading nearly every thread in the Steam for Linux forum, and we hear problems from people having used the downloadable deb for over a decade now! People should use what their distribution made of it, adding their dependencies and such. I cannot believe Valve proposes to actually use that!

and if their distribution made is shit?

Then you should not use their distribution. At all.
For Debian, this works all fine though, I tested this several times.

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Quoting: slaapliedje

Quoting: Eike

Valve posted asking people to consider using the official Valve .deb package

Please, please, please, please not!
I'm reading nearly every thread in the Steam for Linux forum, and we hear problems from people having used the downloadable deb for over a decade now! People should use what their distribution made of it, adding their dependencies and such. I cannot believe Valve proposes to actually use that!

I just use the Debian version of the Steam package. Never have any issues with it at all.

The Debian repository package or Valve's deb? The former one is the one I'm recommending. Of course, the latter one works too, it just might need more manual "help".

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Quoting: BrokattWhat's almost never brought up is that if a user is using Ubuntu LTS, and the official Steam package then they can get support directly from Valve. They don't need to go forum hunting, pasting commands lines into their terminal that they have no idea what its doing etc. They can just contact the Steam support and get help from a real company.

[The same day on the forums, by an Ubuntu user...]
I hate how there's basically no support for Steam on Linux. I filed a ticket asking for help and they told me to check log files in C:\ - absolutely useless.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/0/4038106081469257961/?ctp=3#c4130430927306703734 [External Link]

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Quoting: hell0[I've never replayed an old game and as such they do not really have value to me.

I'm on a similar boat, but got two problems with it: I just want to be able to revisit all my games even if I most probably never do it. And, lately, I started revisiting games with my little ones.

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Quoting: Brokatt

Quoting: Eike

Valve posted asking people to consider using the official Valve .deb package

Please, please, please, please not!
I'm raeding nearly every thread in the Steam for Linux forum, and we hear problems from people having used the downloadable deb for over a decade now! People should use what their distribution made of it, adding their dependencies and such. I cannot believe Valve proposes to actually use that!

What problems? I have been using the official .deb for over a year and it has worked fine. It's not flawless but there are issues with the Flatpak version as well.

As said: dependencies. And I'm not promoting Flatpak either, I prefer the "native" package (deb or whatever your system uses) of your distribution. The distribution makers download the same deb you can download (so they'll hardly make it worse), and they can add to it what the distribution needs to run it. I'm not saying the Steam deb does not work at all, it just might miss dependencies. Of course, if you know what to do, you can install them manually.

People keep coming in the forum with "Steam does not work on Linux", and when you make them show the terminal output, it's missing (32 bit) libraries. And people post "Steam for Linux cannot use games on my hard drive", and when you dig into it, they're using Snap or Flatpak, didn't even know they do, and thus wouldn't know why Steam cannot access other drives.

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Valve posted asking people to consider using the official Valve .deb package

Please, please, please, please not!
I'm reading nearly every thread in the Steam for Linux forum, and we hear problems from people having used the downloadable deb for over a decade now! People should use what their distribution made of it, adding their dependencies and such. I cannot believe Valve proposes to actually use that!

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyThen couldn't it just display the ads and then paint over them with the background colour? I don't care if they're there, I just care if I see them.

That sounds possible. Adding something is a thing the blocker could (always) lie about to the web site code.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: ssj17vegetaGoogle taking bolder and bolder steps against ad blocking

Going slightly off topic . . . So, can someone answer me this question:
Why can't there be ad blocking that the websites can't even tell is happening?

I mean, like, normal well-behaved ad blocking as far as I can tell tries to justify its existence in terms of reducing bandwidth, by stopping the ads from being downloaded in the first place. And so, the websites can tell you're using them because they're telling the websites not to send the ads, I guess. And so in turn, browsers are willing to feature them in their easy-to-look-up add-on libraries, I guess, because they're playing nice and letting the websites give you a hard time for using them. But this makes them not so useful, right?

But I don't really care about the bandwidth. Couldn't an ad blocker just let the ads get downloaded but just make it so they aren't shown to you? Then the website wouldn't be able to tell the difference and you could have an ad blocker that worked. Is that not possible?

I fear yes, it might be impossible. Web went from mostly HTML to mostly JavaScript. Without it, many websites just don't work. But with Javascript, the website can check if the relevant (for the website owner) parts are displayed or not. Of course, the blocker could lie to the code, but it wouldn't know when it had to lie and when it had to say the truth to keep the page working.

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I started to play Opus Magnum [External Link]. On Steam Deck first, but that's just too fiddly there, so I'm back on the desktop. (And just during my play-through, the over six year old game got an update. :) )

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