Quoting: Purple Library GuySo, given the potential problems involved with running Windows 11, let's assume that Valve, or even somebody else, get Steam OS running for this thing. Turning around the question that got asked so much before the release of the Steam Deck but then disappeared without a trace after a while, how many people will rip out Windows on this thing and put in SteamOS (or maybe ChimeraOS)?

As long as the experience is fine, not many people will do either I guess (which is supported by the hardware survey for Steam Deck). "IJW" - it just works, and that's fine and that's it.

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Quoting: hardpenguinAs a ROG product with these specs there is no way this will have a price point anywhere close to Steam Deck. I don't see it as competition at all. It will simply be its own thing, an expensive product with a niche.

I remember Valve saying they'd be happy if other products help establishing a new device category, the handheld gaming PC.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Beta VersionSteam Deck only or Linux overall?

They very clearly said specifically the Steam Deck.

They did, but do we have information yet that Steam is displaying that information to developers?

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Quoting: KlaasSome people waste years polishing their work so they never finish it. You have to know when you've done enough.

On the other hand it's very annoying if you find a typo in the last paragraph just after printing and binding.

You will, no matter how long you polish. I recommend to not ever look into it again. :)

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Quoting: kuunhaI don´t think Steam client needs to be 32 bits to run 32 bits Linux applications.

I don't think anybody said so, though?

My point is: If the vast majority of people is running 32 bit games, they need the environment anyway. Having the gate of making Steam 32 might even spare them some support troubles: If you can run Steam, you've got the basic setup right. The client won't profit too much from 64 bits either - it has got way larger problems than this. So, if I were Valve and would ask myself if I should make the client 64 bits, my question would be: Why would I?

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: Zapporwhen 64-bit linux client

why 64-bit linux client

The idea is that if Steam is 64-bit (but still able to launch all those 32-bit games that will never be updated) then distros (and users) can drop all those (poorly secured) 32-bit packages that are no one wants to (or even really does) maintain.

The reasons for Ubuntu's (premature) desire to drop the maintenance and packaging of 32-bit packages at the same time as they dropped their 32-bit install images are still true, it's just that the infrastructure for ruining 32-bit proprietary applications on an entirely 64-bit system weren't yet up to the task. Without a significant push, it'll never be up to the task, and Valve dragging their feet on removing their dependency on 32-bit packages delays that push.

As I understand it.

But where would all those 32 bit games get their environment from?
As I understand it, a single 32 bit game I want to run would eliminate the advantages, right?

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Blumenkrantz should stop working on computer stuff and start a writing career. :D
No, not seriously, but it's great how he makes such technical stuff a pleasant reading.

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Quoting: Zapporwhen 64-bit linux client

why 64-bit linux client

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Quoting: 14I'll give it a shot in the Summer since it's free, but I haven't been up to par in twitch style, competitive shooters for years.

What are "Twitch style shooters"?
Something people would want to watch?

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Quoting: RelsreRelevant HK local news article (in Chinese, but hey there's a photo of Decks in the wild!): https://www.hkepc.com/21381/ [External Link]

Thanks for sharing!

[discovery channel voice]
A rare photograph of a Steam Deck in the wild - a species luckily not threatened with extinction...

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