I'd find it very hard to create a satisfying end to such a story - let alone one that satisfies a majority of players...!

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Quoting: LinasCounter-Strike holds strong because it is a time-tested formula that has been refined to perfection. If Valve wants to add or change the core mechanics, they would be taking a risk of not being received positively and driving the fans away. Making it a completely separate game would allow them much more freedom to do what they want. I just hope it does not become another Battlefield of Duty.

How I would love an experience like I had with the early CoDs, now natively on Linux...
(With a server browser, please!)

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I would have never seen this b(r)etzel thing if you had not talked so much about it, and now I cannot unsee it!

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Quoting: DamonLinuxPLThey only upgrade SDL to new version. Most of games can work out of box with native Wayland by only upgrading SDL2. No big deal for game that is still in developing.

I find it good enough that they a) know and b) care!

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Quoting: BlackBloodRumBut rather.. the entitled gaming community. Generally being crappy as usual. For example, still, to this day, when a dev proudly announces "Hey, we're Steam deck verified", the community still sends a ton of crap and hate their way. For example, Cyberpunk 2077:

I didn't step through many pages, but aren't most people there angry about the game's quality itself and are using every chance to bitch around?

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Quoting: GaGaGaelandThey started to silently unban people: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton/issues/4350#issuecomment-1453575624 [External Link]
https://answers.ea.com/t5/Technical-Issues/Linux-players-getting-banned/td-p/12338557/page/10 [External Link]
I played a game today and confirmed that I'm no longer banned :smile:

The sticky comment here is interesting, too:
https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/11gaefo/comment/japp3xk/ [External Link]

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Quoting: iWeaker4You

Quoting: EikeDo I really want Ray-Tracing on such a medium powered device?!?

I tried it, and I'm not completely convinced, I prefer to have it disabled and gain some fps

What speed do you get with and without it?

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Do I really want Ray-Tracing on such a medium powered device?!?

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Quoting: anokasion

Quoting: EikeSecondary gaming device? :-D
Or, deserved by it's importance, "owning Steam Deck [ ] yes [ ] no"?

What is the information that adds if somebody owns a Steam Deck or not? I understand the importance of the device for gaming since it's powered by a fork of Arch by Valve, and it has helped a lot the advance of software like Proton, Wine, the refinement of Vulkan and OpenGL, developers taking more seriously Linux, etc. but I have been following GamingOnLinux for years since the days the site was not popular as it is right now, and nowadays it feels each day that passes, more and more of the news of the site, ignores, or heavily prioritizes, all SteamDeck related, getting for me to the point it feels more GamingOnSteamdeck rather than GamingOnLinux.
The site is beginning to prioritize the SteamDeck more and more each day it passes, and because the staff and specially Liam can stay up only so much time, I know the site it's ignoring (or giving a lot less priority) to what's happening on the gaming on Linux desktop experience (which it's much more diverse and more complex, therefore it would benefit a lot more being covered... that was what attracted me in the first place at least).

I'm trying to be objective here, just remembering the GoL from 2 years ago compared to what is it now. A balance of news on both fronts would be the best option, but I also know it could be too much work.

I know most people won't like my comment but being able to discuss things like this are a key point in the open source world community.

Having one Steam Deck specific question is very far from prioritizing it. At least not more than the number of monitors, VRR or VR, which I would consider semi-important for most people. (Well, I could start a rant about how we'll look back at non VRR times with shudders, but don' get me started. :D )

In contrast, Steam Deck is the biggest thing in Linux gaming of the decade quite literally, 10 years after the start of Steam on Linux.

Don't get me wrong, I'm using Linux as my main desktop system for 25 years, reading GoL at least 9 years, having written a bunch of articles here and as said, still consider my box my main gaming system. I don't love Proton and I'd like to read more about native games.

But as you said, Liam is only one Liam sadly, and cannot concentrate on everything at once. And as Steam Deck is the biggest thing around for the topic at hand, he has to cover it extensively, and, fortunately, he doesn't forget about Linux boxes, native gaming and some stuff besides the gaming world. Which might lose him money.

What I expect from the question, you asked: With the proposed extension of wanting one and wanting one but living where you cannot get one, this would show the interest of our (non-representative) group in Steam Deck. It could even show that most of us are not interested in it and underline your point. Or not. Who knows. I'd like to know.

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Quoting: anth

Quoting: Eike"owning Steam Deck [ ] yes [ ] no"?

I'd prefer a couple more options:
- Yes
- No
- Planning to get one
- Would get one if they were available in my country

That makes sense, coined like the VR question.

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: EikeWith a bit of surprise I found that my statistics don't contain that I own a Steam Deck (as it's not my primary device).

Hmmm yes, that brings up a good point. Need to think on a way to include it regardless, and potentially other handhelds. Open to suggestions.

I've got several portables (they're my jam :grin:), but given that there are so many variations out there (both natively Linux, and that are supported by Linux but don't come with it by default), I'd suggest perhaps having a checkbox (something like "Do you own a Linux handheld?") and a blank field to fill in which one(s) you have.

I'm not sure how one would handle a handheld being someone's primary Linux gaming device, though (which is the case for me - my listed specs are for my GPD Win Max 2021, but I game in different ways on all four of my Linux portables) - perhaps a second checkbox to denote that, as well?

At any rate, portables are popular, and even if Valve opts not to continue with the Steam Deck in the end, the category itself isn't going to go anywhere. :smile:

Yeah, this is why I would prefer to keep an open question for it, I'll think some more on how to best arrange it.

I think the thing in Linux gaming in a decade does deserve it's special treatment. I don't wanna add "Stem Deck" and "Steam Dreck" etc from a free form field to the number of "Steam Deck"...

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