Quoting: slaapliedjeHa, Hyperion could figure out how to port that to Linux on PowerPC macs, but damned if they can port AmigaOS to PowerPC Macs... :P Which makes no sense to me, as you'd think there would have been far more uptake of that operating system if they'd make it for more affordable hardware.

I have never been the Amiga user myself.

I'm guessing that Hyperion realized that there are thousands of people that want to use AmigaOS. They will be interested in spending a lot money for the hardware if they can make something useful on their favorite operating system.

The majority of Mac users buy computers to run new version of macOS. In the same way, they get used to their favorite applications that aren't available for Windows or Linux.

I think that many MorphOS users have a second computer with Amiga OS.

I can't understand Hyperion decisions. Shogo for Mac Classic was a success, and they didn't even made a patch for Mac OS X users.

They were more interested in porting Gorky 17 to Linux x86/PPC than releasing games like Europa Universalis for Mac.

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Quoting: grigiYeah, SiN was probably the most troublesome Linux port I ever had. Well done on getting it to run an complete it!

It really was a game that had hints of greatness, but was a bit confused by itself.

It's much simpler with the installer from liflg, and it works on Ubuntu 20.4.

It's an exaggeration because I saw many more problematic games.
I keep the old computer with the Linux distribution from 2003 to play games:

- Mohaa Beta 3 - I get used to sound issues, but it is impossible to play without crashes on anything higher than 2.6.7. It's a great game if you want to spend 30$ on an old computer.
- Devastation beta 1 - I used the save games from the Windows version on Wine to finish it. This game has a lot of issues, but it works on Ubuntu 20.4
- Kingpin - It's less problematic on the old Linux distributions. However, it's ridiculously difficult to run on many modern Linux distributions
- etc.

Sin is quite tricky on many levels. I had this weird feeling sometimes that I played Sof or kingpin instead of Sin, which was great.

Quoting: HamishI had never even heard of this game before, so thanks for the suggestion. I will certainly consider it. :smile:

They sell it again on Ebay, and It's simillar to classic Bard's Tale games.

I mentioned Titan computer which was a german company specializing in publishing games for Linux, Mac, Amiga, and so on. They published Shogo, Sin, and Jagged Alliance 2 for Linux.

We know that Tribsoft ported Jagged Alliance 2 for Linux and the company was closed shortly after it. Tribsoft planned to port other games to Linux like Majesty and Europa Universalis.

https://web.archive.org/web/20041207053221/http://www.titan-computer.com/linux/index.html [External Link]

I have no idea that in 2000 Titan Computer wanted to publish Majesty for Linux. We know that later, Mathieu Pinard decided to help LGP in releasing Majesty to Linux x86/PPC.

Similarly, Titan Computer was interested in releasing Gorky 17 for Linux. I'm guessing Hyperion didn't want to work with Titan Computer after publishing Shogo and Sin for Linux. They decided to spend a few years porting Gorky 17 to Linux x86/PPC with a Linux team of Michael Simms. LGP replaced the gap after Loki, Tribsoft, and Titan Computer.

There was a chance that Titan computer could become so well-known like Loki, LGP, or even Alternative Games that disappeared in 2022.

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Quoting: HamishNot so much forgot as it was not directly relevant in my case, but it is still cool to know for those with an interest in such hardware. Same with a lot of the Loki Software games.

That was the only FPS game officially ported to Linux PowerPC, and it has some interesting options for Linux users

- computers with the x86 processor
- PowerPC Macs with Linux
- you could try to run Sin on the game consoles like PS2, or other Linux computers with the PowerPC processors like Amiga, PEGASOS, IBM etc.

Quoting: roelI also have this game. I never finished it because it had a lot of issues. I should try it again, maybe with the script from liflg: https://github.com/liflg/sin_1.10-english_x86 [External Link]
I always hoped they would opensource the engine so the game would get a second life.

You have to use this installer for Sin.

http://files.holarse-linuxgaming.de/native/Tools/liflg/beta/ [External Link]

Quoting: HamishConsidering I already had to install SiN on Windows 98 for the benchmarks I just went ahead and started playing Wages of SiN from there. I managed to find a loose Wages of Sin jewel case at a Goodwill while thrifting a few years back.

The result of Benchmarks is interesting to me. At least, you had a chance to finish a base version of this game on Linux.

You can use this option to start Sin:

+set vid_ref gl

https://holarse.de/wiki/sin [External Link]

I think that the old Linux distributions had LibGL.so.1 instead LibGL.so in /usr/lib/.

Do you plan to write the article about Devil whiskey for Linux?

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I forgot to mention that when I solved the issue with missing files in one of the packs something funny happened. The game doesn't crash in this area, and is a weird coincidence. On the same level, J.C. said "What happened Blade? The signal is perfect again."

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Hi

Thank you for the article.

I used LIFLG to play Sin.

Thank you for the information about this patch.

I didn't have issues with any save games in Sin on Ubuntu 20.4. However, the final cutscene didn't work, so I had to use VLC to watch it.

There is a terrible bug which is caused by the different location of a few files in one of pak files. The game crashes before the underwater pass part 2, and I just copied few files from pak to the directory with Sin. In this case, I didn't have to cheat to finish Sin.

You forgot to mention that Sin was ported to Linux PowerPC.

You can also use Mac OS X 10.6 with Rosetta to play Wages of Sin on the intel Mac from 2010 (or Mac Pro 2012) or earlier. I didn't tried myself.

Hyperion didn't release any patches for Sin and Shogo because low sales were a big issue for them. Hyperion ported these games to Linux, but they blamed a Linux publisher Titan Computer for low sales. I'm not sure which company you mentioned at the end of this article.

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I have to correct a mistake.

Alternative Games was porting games to Linux for 12 years.

Quoting: Liam DaweThere’s been a game on Steam before that only had a Linux build.

I remember that later, this game was ported to Windows, but they first released the Linux version.
Voltley was released in 2009, and they never ported it to Windows.

Quoting: Liam DaweIt’s not a hard requirement set by Valve.

You can ask Clive Crous, and Thomas Frieden about it. I remember that even a lawyer fron Hyperion couldn't make a deal with creators of Gorky 17.

Quoting: Liam DaweThe point is: why? Exclusives are bad.

They are bad for some users because they have to spend more money on two or three different versions of the game. On the other hand, exclusive games give almost everyone a good reason to keep Linux on your hard drive.

Steam allow users to buy a game for few operating systems. In this case, they can have some fun with Linux, and they can easily go back to Windows. They don't have to worry that they have games for Linux in their closet on a CD or a flash drive.

Exclusive games are good for some Linux publishers because they can earn more money.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEPIt's not that I couldn't imagine some dev that is in love with the Deck for some reason creating a game specifically made for the Deck's somewhat unique input system.
Or that Valve would fund such a thing.
Might be fun, but if that ever happens, it'll be a gigantic rarity and the dev will get a lot of flak if they don't also enable it on normal PC platforms.

I want to see bundles with games for:

- Windows/Linux/Mac
- Windows/Mac
- Windows/Linux
- Linux/Mac
etc.

Valve should stop require rights to publishing a Windows version if a company want to sell only a Linux version.

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Exclusives titles for Linux have two meanings:

- games that you can play only on Linux
- games ported by a Linux publisher

We don't have these options with Steam, which is weird.

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Hi

I think that right now Linux users have other issues because we slowly start to loose companies that built the success of this platform. Alternative Games disappeared, and nobody noticed it. They ported many great games to Linux, and they have been doing that for 11 years.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/5535/

Now, we can really forget about Frozenbyte games for Linux. The Linux team from IGIOS founded this company, and a few employees from previous company ported two first games for Linux that used NVIDIA PhysX in 2009. They are responsible for The Humble Frozenbyte Bundle because they ported most of these games to Linux and Mac.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaM6LHC_uXA [External Link]

Ii will be fun to have few popular indie games exclusively for Linux, and it takes some time when it happens. We had Voltley, which was exclusive game for Linux, and I regret that I didn't bought it. The author of this game is unknown, and we don't get this game on Steam. This is one of the reasons why Runesoft, and LGP couldn't publish their games on Steam. I hope that Valve chenge their mind about this issue, and allow publishing separate games for Linux.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: gbudnyThis is great!

I'm pretty sure that I saw somewhere articles from 2009, but I can't find anything:

"Welcome to GamingOnLinux
By Liam Dawe, 1 Apr, 2010"

I tied to use archive.org, but I couldn't do it:

Sorry.
This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.

We were on a .info domain name originally, and for some reason Wayback won't unblock this one despite repeated requests.

Thank you for the answer.

I didn't expect this kind of behavior from them, which is disappointing.

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