Quoting: BlackBloodRumI think you're missing the point that for many of us users, Linux is a full replacement for Windows :smile:.

BSD/Solaris with Wine, Linux with Wine/Proton, and macOS with CrossOver won't replace Windows. You turn off the emulator, and you have to deal with the Unix-like operating system.
Users don't have a full replacement for Windows 9x/NT - It's hard to recommend ReactOS. I can say that FreeDOS could replace DOS, and ArcaOS is the great alternative for Windows 3.1.

Quoting: BlackBloodRumI have been using Linux exclusively for many years now, even before the mainstream gaming companies started supporting Linux. There was a time where gaming was near non-existent on Linux. I still used my computers with no Windows at that time too.

I can say that gaming was nearly non-existent before 1998, when Linux users had a few commercial games.

Quoting: BlackBloodRumWith that said, I don't treat Linux as "something terrible" as for me, it works and it works well. It fits me like a glove.

I have low expecations about Linux. You can easily find hardware that doesn't support Linux or barely works. I don't blame Linux, but it can't replace Windows in this area. However, I can avoid buying problematic hardware if I use Linux, which can give me a better experience.

Similarly, Linux has many applications and games that we can use. We can accept them with all the issues or jealously look at Windows versions.

We overestimate Linux with Wine/Proton as a replacement for Windows. Users are smart enough to notice that they have higher expectations than even the playable state of a game for Windows.

It's just terrible marketing for Linux, and people shouldn't promote it in this way.

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Quoting: gbudnyI still have the CD with the Linux version of Sin.
I played it on Ubuntu 20.4 with padsp.

I did the same on Fedora a few years ago and it was a terrible experience. It was probably a problem particular to my setup however. The game ran faster than normal but with constant chopping. The worst motion sickness I can remember.

I didn't have this issue with the old Intel Xeon processor, but you probably have more modern hardware.

I didn't expect it could happen with games that use Quake engines.

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Quoting: gbudnyI hope that is a legal thing because I don't want to see it removed:

The source code was not leaked but published by Jim Dosé the co-founder of Ritual Entertainment. However it was not a FLOSS release. Every file carries this warning:

"This source is may not be distributed and/or modified without expressly written permission by Ritual Entertainment, Inc."

So legally pretty sketchy.

Jim Dosé is a well-known person, so it probably makes more acceptable.

At least, we can find out what happened in the other missions of Sin.
I didn't like the ending of the base game.

@Liam Dawe
Maybe you should mention that Rohit created an installer for the Linux and Windows versions of Sin.

It's amazing when I think how much money and time companies invested in porting and publishing games for Linux over 20 years ago.

Hyperion ported all these games for Linux

Gorky 17 (Linux x86/PPC)
Sin (Linux x86/PPC)
Shogo (Linux x86)

Titan computer was a German company specializing in publishing games for Linux, Mac, Amiga, and so on. They published Shogo, Sin, and Jagged Alliance 2 for Linux.

In 2000 Titan Computer wanted to publish Majesty for Linux. We know that later, Mathieu Pinard from Tribsoft decided to help LGP in releasing Majesty to Linux x86/PPC. Similarly, Titan Computer was interested in releasing Gorky 17 for Linux. However, Hyperion decided to spend a few years porting Gorky 17 to Linux x86/PPC with a Linux team of Michael Simms.

https://web.archive.org/web/20041207053221/http://www.titan-computer.com/linux/index.html [External Link]

27.Sep 2000 Titan Computer licences Majesty from Cyberlore Studios
11.June 2000 Titan signs Gorky17 from Topware

There was a chance that Titan computer could become so well-known like Loki, LGP, Runesoft, or even Alternative Games.

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I still have the CD with the Linux version of Sin.

I played it on Ubuntu 20.4 with padsp.

Unfortunately, this version doesn't include SiN: Wages of Sin, which is a mod from the gold version.

I hope that is a legal thing because I don't want to see it removed:

I plan to release the source later, but it won't be under an open-source license since it's actually leaked.

How many times I try to explained it:

Sure, you could run Sin Gold under Proton, but where's the fun in that?

I think the issue is that many users treat Linux with Proton as a replacement for Windows. The current situation with games for Linux is different now than it was before 2010. On the other hand, I have treated this system since 2004 as something "terrible" that frequently amazes me when I can run some great games on it.

Linux is something better than many other versions of Unix, but it is very similar to them.

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Quoting: gbudnyDo you remember the name of this Linux library? ... Did you find any information in a Readme file or instructions about Linux?

"gamei386.so - New game code for Linux (Compiled on Redhat 5.1)" - readme-1.1.txt

They also released the source code for the game library in the zaero-src-1.1-2.zip archive. Hence this:
https://github.com/yquake2/zaero [External Link]

Thank you for the answer.

This library was on the CD, but they didn't sell as a Linux-compatible mod.
We probably never find out if that was the decision of the publisher or the developer.

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Thank you for the article.

Do you remember the name of this Linux library?

formal Linux support even being offered through a library file included as part of the official zaero-1.1-2.zip patch archive

Did you find any information in a Readme file or instructions about Linux?

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Quoting: HamishThese are the best quality images I have found of it:

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The Crack dot Com version has a red Abuse logo while the Origin/EA version has a blue Abuse logo.

Can you imagine hundreds of unopened boxes with the Linux version of Abuse located somewhere?

Do you think that Golgotha can be built on Linux?

https://github.com/pgrawehr/golgotha [External Link]

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Quoting: HamishFurther links and resources can be found on the official website:
https://icculus.org/~hamish/retro/part34.html [External Link]

Quoting: gbudnyI know that Abuse was on the CD with old versions of Red Hat Linux. I don't know which version of Red Hat had the most recent version of this game. Maybe, it will be easier for you to check old versions of Red Hat. Then, you can try to find this specific version of Red Hat with Abuse on eBay or other places.

I have looked into this, and best as I can tell, it was only the shareware version of Abuse that Red Hat packaged alongside their distribution without the full registered data. Hence the RPM package that I grabbed from their servers, which in fact is what I used to install the shareware version for my article back when I played it in February.

Red Hat did sign a publishing deal for Golgotha but that of course was never finished:
https://www.redhat.com/en/about/press-releases/press-crackdotcom [External Link]

Not long after Red Hat stated that they had no further interest in publishing games:
https://slashdot.org/story/98/11/05/105224/red-hat-not-interested-in-publishing-id-games [External Link]

Maybe they were only releasing the shareware version of this game.
On the other hand, the application CD was added frequently to the boxed versions of Red Hat, and it would be difficult to check their content. The application CD contained many commercial and shareware applications for Linux.

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Thank you for the article.

I know that Abuse was on the CD with old versions of Red Hat Linux. I don't know which version of Red Hat had the most recent version of this game.

Maybe, it will be easier for you to check old versions of Red Hat. Then, you can try to find this specific version of Red Hat with Abuse on eBay or other places.

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Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: gbudnyIn 2009, Linux had access to Flex, Air, Flashplayer (with the GTK menu), and Adobe Reader. Later, Adobe one by one started to abandon these applications for Linux. It was painful to observe it.

It seemed funny to me to see all of the lamentations about Flash meeting its end not too long ago, when, for us Linux users, the web has been (mercifully) Flash-free for much longer. :tongue:

I remember that in 2012, they discontinued Flashplayer for a few years. Later, I saw plugins that used Wine to run it inside the native web browser, which was even worse.

People were complaining in Poland when Flashplayer 7 wasn't released for Linux because they couldn't watch Adam Małysz ski jumping. Of course, Moonlight was a complete garbage because it couldn't even be called the alternative to Silverlight.

I have been using Adobe Reader and Flashplayer since 2004, and it's hard to accept it. Flash was dying for many years, and Adobe didn't do Linux users a favor when they did earlier.

I still use Air to run some games on Linux.

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Thank you for the article.

I remember the TV series Garfield, which was funny when I was a kid.

I have never played the games based on this TV series. However, there were thousands of flash games, and it was almost impossible to track them.

Flash was always terrible on Linux because it could even crash your web browser. In 2009, Linux had access to Flex, Air, Flashplayer (with the GTK menu), and Adobe Reader. Later, Adobe one by one started to abandon these applications for Linux. It was painful to observe it.

They started with AIX/HP-UX, Solaris, and Linux was at the end of their list.

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