Quoting: Joeyboots80I disagree that "they are just doing business" when they (devs) are purposely ignoring a segment of their customer base and allowing trolls to troll freely against these folks whilst banning people who retaliate in response to said trolling by Windows "fanboys" or MS shills.

Of course they ignore Linux on purpose. Just like they ignore Sailfish OS in the mobile space. They deem the market share too small to matter. In our case it might be based on outdated data, but it's hardly out of malice.

The way they handle communication and the various Internet forums is another thing. I don't know if they simply don't follow the Steam forums or if they just don't have control over them. I doubt any of these developers actively promote anti-linux trolling, even if they don't do much to work against it.

Quoting: Joeyboots80The market is indeed changing, but not in the way you say. The market has always been the way you describe. Business and how it's conducted hasn't changed at all. Since when has it NOT been about evaluating risk for corporations when producing content or products for sale? The bottom line is still King. I get that.

What I meant was that Linux has quite recently become a financially viable part of the gaming market, not that the nature of the market itself is changing.

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Bagged a couple of gifts for nephews, and spent the rest of my PayPal balance on The Talos Principle and Mad Max. That's two off my wishlist, and at least one I already know I'll enjoy. :)

If I'd had just a couple of euros more, I might have gone for Rocket League instead of Talos...

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Quoting: meggermanWill they play at 1440p fullscreen ? I imagine that they are 4:3 but are they at least fullscreen top to bottom on a 16:9 monitor ?

I don't see why not? Both ScummVM and DOSBox support scaling, but surely your monitor can switch to common lower resolution modes as well.

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoWhat means weiner? Google traslator doesn't recognize it.

He means wiener. You know, the delicious sausage. Also a derogatory term. "Weiner" is a very common misspelling.

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Quoting: Luke_NukemThe Die-Hard. These gamers won't buy unless there is a proper port or official support.

There's nothing die-hard about wanting official support for a product I purchase. It's just common sense.

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Quoting: Joeyboots80I am not so sure that Firaxis is "anti-Linux, but I will tell you I am sick and tired of the apathy shown towards our community by AAA pubs/devs in regards to ports or support for ports, a few obvious exceptions notwithstanding. Being marginalized isn't fun, and when you speak out about this neglect or about moderators on forums/threads favoring Windows users you're labeled "toxic".

As I wrote above, we chose to use Linux. And Linux really is small enough to make many developers indifferent. Not to us, but the system we use. That's not apathy and they're not marginalizing anything, they're just doing business.

The market is changing, like this market always is, but for now developers might simply decide that instead of porting to a system that might or might not make them money, the safe bet is to put those pennies (and those man-hours if this would be done internally) towards their next big seller on larger platforms. They might not be moving with the times here, but that's business inertia for you.

So, like I wrote in my previous comment, focus on Linux "evangelism" and keep voting with your wallet to make us noticed. Playing the martyr might not be toxic, but it sure as hell is annoying. Play with the trolls and other woodland creatures if you feel that's useful, but bashing developers themselves for not being adventurous enough to be among the first few to support Linux is hardly productive.


EDIT: Some weird English annihilated. (Language, not people.)

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I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the seemingly common sentiment that being a Linux user is somehow comparable to being a racial or sexual minority in a hostile society. Contrary to these Linux is a choice. It's good as far as choices go, but we all know it's not yet a popular one.

The underdog mentality is appealing--or at least easy to slip into--but won't help us get anywhere. The best it can do is make us seen and heard, but the worst it can do and indeed has done is give us a reputation as whiny and self-important elitists. Just like a few obnoxious trolls make some of you proclaim all Windows users are like that.

Yes, we have the right not to buy games not available on our OS. What we don't have is the right to expect every developer to cater to our whims. Indifference does not always equal hate. We've got a lot of work ahead us before our tiny platform is important enough to warrant your expectations. The technical stuff is shaping up well, but that's just one step towards the goal.

Please be active and enthusiastic about Linux, but don't throw tantrums when things don't go our way. If you get wrongful treatment from volunteer moderators on a forum, the only productive choice is to report them to the developer. Even a justified shitstorm always results in a stinking mess.

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Quoting: Comandante ÑoñardoI know is a necro thread but..
Mad Max is super cheap right now on Bundlestars.

https://www.bundlestars.com/en/game/mad-max

Too bad Bundle Stars keys register as Windows sales, no matter what platform you play on. And besides, Steam's Winter Sale starts in a couple of days, I wouldn't be surprised if Mad Max was included and just as cheap. I can wait.

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Quoting: MightyTrollzorI am aware that this is not violating any copyright law (as long as sony doesn't patent any game mechanics of the wipeout series) but it wouldn't be the first time a publisher claims rights to some independent artists work, getting the artist to remove said work because they can't afford a lawsuit from a publisher which in turn has more than enough money for a ton of lawyers and legal expenses.

Sadly this is true. Having been at the receiving end of a ridiculous trademark claim (thankfully cleared with a single response from our own lawyer, "only" costing us a couple of hundred euros), I know the system is broken. I don't think you can actually patent game mechanics however.

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Quoting: SketchStickI was under the impression that Epic Games does very little work on Unreal Engine's Linux support. That the vast majority of fixes were contributed by the community? If that's the case, I don't think waiting on them is going to help much.

This might be a general bug related to their OpenGL backend, not something Linux specific. These backends are written and supported by Epic themselves I think.

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