Quoting: MaCroX95they have the right to DRM it and control our computers and spy on us if we accept their EULA

Luckily this isn't quite as clear cut in the EU at least. There are citizen's rights and protections we cannot give away by signing an EULA any more than we could sell ourselves into slavery. No agreement overrides law, and no private company or individual can dictate law. (Unless they've got the money I guess. :><: Fsck the legalized corruption we call lobbying.)

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Quoting: meggermanWith the recent Windows games showing bug in Steam i got a glimpse of many new and decent AA / AAA titles I will never have a chance of playing unless I pony up for a console or use Windows.

You'll always have titles you can't play if you stick to a single platform. Sure, Linux has fewer of the big franchises than the others, which is to be expected at this point, but with seventy-odd titles on my wishlist I sure can't complain.

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Quoting: PinkBear1WINE is just an emulator.

Nah, you're thinking about WIJE.

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Quoting: buenaventuraSorry, but you are the one arguing that culture should not be free, that it is a bad thing if it is.

I haven't seen a single comment saying that culture should not be free, or more accurately that no games should be free. In fact I am sure none of us even suggested anything to that effect. Not a single word against libraries, itch.io... any of it. You're fighting strawmen.

What many of us have suggested that until we reach that utopia where artists—and more to the point, game development studios—are able to profit from their work without having to rely on sales, we have no moral right to dictate the terms on which we consume their output. Feel free to help yourself to any media that is given to you by copyright owners, and do by all means take advantage of legitimate sales. None of this hurts the artist. It is the notion that you should be the one to decide that is basically the definition of self-entitlement.

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Quoting: boltronicsMy understanding was that OpenGL wouldn't be releasing new versions, and will just be adding extensions.

No, OpenGL isn't in maintenance mode yet. Khronos made it very clear that the Vulkan launch didn't mean OpenGL would stop evolving. There will be new extensions, and any deemed fit for core will be pulled into or influence future versions of the spec, same as always. Unless you've heard otherwise?

I have no doubt development focus has shifted towards Vulkan though. Some smart Vulkan-based abstraction libraries or shims could basically make OpenGL (not ES) irrelevant at some point, but Vulkan need to mature a bit for this to happen.

Probably referring to this speculative piece from phoronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Mesa-OpenGL-Version-Spoiler [External Link]

Larabel's speculation is what it is, mostly based on speculative (or hopeful?) comments from a couple of Intel developers who are influential but do not decide these things. We'll see. OpenGL-based games and software are being worked on, and will be for a long time still. If there's enough demand for a new version at some point, it will happen. I would be happy if the industry took a clean break and shifted towards Vulkan, but there are several reasons why this is unlikely in the near future.

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Quoting: boltronicsMy understanding was that OpenGL wouldn't be releasing new versions, and will just be adding extensions.

No, OpenGL isn't in maintenance mode yet. Khronos made it very clear that the Vulkan launch didn't mean OpenGL would stop evolving. There will be new extensions, and any deemed fit for core will be pulled into or influence future versions of the spec, same as always. Unless you've heard otherwise?

I have no doubt development focus has shifted towards Vulkan though. Some smart Vulkan-based abstraction libraries or shims could basically make OpenGL (not ES) irrelevant at some point, but Vulkan need to mature a bit for this to happen.

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Quoting: buenaventuraIf you don't want people expressing opinions that differ from yours, to the extent that you cannot even respond, then just ban them, I would say, or disable commenting.

Says the guy who seems to systematically ignore anything he doesn't agree with. You've made your point clear, and also made it clear that you don't even read what the rest of us write.

Here's a little TL;DR: You say all games are culture, and that you're entitled to all culture, because that's your right as a human being. You use a wide definition of culture as a catch-all, and flash the declaration of human rights as if it had anything to do with anything. Others have responded many times that there's tons of culture that is free, but not all artists (or in this case studios with wages to pay, whose employees include some artists) are willing to work for free, or in hope of donations.

If you want things to change, you've got to fix the system, not subvert it. There's the difference between activism and self-entitlement.

Sorry about my tone, but you're pissing a lot of people off with your attitude. No use getting in a huff. I know you're looking for a ban to "prove you are right", but that would only prove how annoyed Liam is with you, nothing else.

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Quoting: Mountain Man"grey-market" sites like Bundle Stars or G2A

When did Bundle Stars go from selling legal keys—albeit Windows ones—to being a grey-market site? I've never bought from them for the reasons explained in this article, but unless you know something we do not, that's just baseless FUD. G2A is different.

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Quoting: buenaventuraStrange, I never found it was difficult - I just rush forward blasting, using rewind to correct some mistakes (or just power on with a new guy). I've never run out of timeouts.

I didn't say I thought it was difficult. At least it wasn't yet at the point I stopped playing. I just didn't like the fast, messy gameplay. It all comes down to personal preference.

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Guys, take a deep breath. Everyone has an opinion and no one here can force you to share theirs. In fact it's silly to accuse someone of forcing you to do this or that when all they actually do is write something that you disagree with. So please, less drama and more discussion about the facts. This is an article about best practices, not the ten commandments of Linux gaming. You won't be cast into the fiery pits of Windows if you transgress this covenant.

Personally I happen to agree with Liam though, on most points at least. I don't buy stuff from resellers I don't trust, or ones that I know are doing shady business, even if I know that means I can't afford the product. I've often been in a situation where I couldn't afford games, which means I don't own many games. I'm patient though, and sooner or later (or much later) every game I'm interested in goes on a good sale in GOG, Steam or Humble. No need for third party resellers. I don't get to buy all the games I want, but that's okay. I get enough.

This philosophy applies to everything I buy though, not just entertainment. I'm not entitled to stuff I cannot afford, and I'm happier without stuff I could only afford if I supported immoral or even illegal practices by shady companies. (Not just G2A and pals, but multinationals like Nestle, H&M etc.)

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