Quoting: Purple Library GuyOr, to put it a different way, the game's own developer is on this slower than Valve.
Although really, Valve moved on this pretty quick.

Yeah, I wasn't sure which angle to look at it from, haha! :tongue: Valve usually seems to be fast on things like this, though.

Quoting: GuestI'm guessing they have eyes on it as it's a pretty big name release and very suited for the Deck audience. Glad they are, not so sure how much faith to have in Konami fixing any of it in general.

What bugs me is that, as I said in the other news-thread relating to this, Konami is really odd about this sort of thing - sometimes they just contract out to suitable indies and that works well (and has resulted in several titles that work great on Linux and the Steam Deck), but this seems to be what happens when they don't do that*.

*Unsurprisingly, the only currently-working parts of this collection were handled by M2, who did the Castlevania and Contra retro collections, and who are quite famous for their Sega Ages titles, amongst others.

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Quoting: Liam DaweArticle updated.

Valve is on this faster than the game's own developer. :shock: That really is something!

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Quoting: Purple Library GuySo really, almost a public service, those lawsuits. :grin::grin:

I know other folks who got into it the same way, and it was something that ultimately helped me to find my way here, so I'd say so. :smile:

The crazy thing is, that all started back when the first Metal Gear Solid was still current! :shock:

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I watched the GOL YouTube video about this one yesterday, but though it looks the part and I like a good arcadey racing-game and love the theming here (also a Hot Wheels fan, and have a few of their Mario Kart ones on my desk :tongue:), the anti-cheat/DLC/Deluxe-this/Legendary-that/season-passes-the-other is just completely off-putting to me. If they'd released a complete game without any of that, I'd be buying it, but that's clearly not their intent.

To be clear, I wasn't willing to spend £44.99 on Super Bomberman R 2 in spite of that being a complete title and me being a huge fan of that series (I got it from Fanatical for £35.99, which was a much more reasonable price for what it is), so I certainly wouldn't spend that much on a licensed title that is openly acknowledged as being incomplete at launch and requires further spending to fix that issue.

Another one noticed today, is that it will sync your game settings via Steam Cloud so that can be a nuisance swapping between PC and Steam Deck. Please developers, just stop doing that.

ARGH! :angry:

I don’t know if that’s just my brain being rewired from oh-so-many live service games that go on for years, but even so, two years just seems ridiculously short for this.

Nah, it is ridiculously short by modern standards, and even more so when the game before it was so big on large amounts of DLC to begin with.

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Quoting: GuestLinux or not, from everything I've seen so far it's a far better experience to just emulate all of them. I even read that the first game is just wrapped in an emulator? A shame, I'd gladly buy old games like these fixed up to run on modern machines if they spent a tiny bit of effort to make sure they, well, ran.

It's the same for me, and I've done so numerous times (usually it's with emulator-wrapped collections, and I'm fine with that - I know it's generally the most cost-effective way of keeping old titles out there). I've been an emulation enthusiast ever since Sony drew attention to it with their lawsuits in the late 1990s, but I'm always happy to support retro re-releases that keep old games in circulation, as long as 1: they can be made to work on my OS of choice, and 2: they actually work in the first place. This one's having trouble with that at the moment, and I really was hoping to buy it early on.

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Quoting: StoneColdSpiderYou admitted you blew them up...... Are you saying you used terrorist tactics to force Liam to post your news article???.........

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, NO! :tongue:

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Quoting: GroganI don't like multiplayer anything anymore, but short matches are best.

I only play with friends and family, these days, and that's the way I like it - it's always a good laugh. :smile: Totally agreed on short matches - and that tends to lend itself to good game-balance, as well.

I did my time in competitive with another game, years ago, and that experience (including using online-play for practise and having to deal with endless cheaters and false-flags from bad losers, some of them also being cheaters who did not get banned themselves - I got wrongfully banned by a badly-designed automated system 14 times, back then) rather soured me on playing with randoms.

Quoting: GroganWe used to do 10 minute matches on our game servers, for FPS gameplay.

10 minutes! Yikes! :shock: I get motion-sickness from first-person stuff, so I'm not sure how well I'd fare, there. :tongue:

Quoting: GroganI sometimes play bot matches in games, but that too... a few 10 minute map rotations and I'm tired of it.

I'd be doing more offline matches in Super Bomberman R 2, but right now the AI (in the old gaming sense, not the modern one) is as dumb as a stump! :dizzy: I'm sure it'll be patched, though - they did the same with the first Super Bomberman R, except back then the AI had to be toned down over the course of several patches because it was far too harsh. It's definitely better for them to have approached it from the opposite side this time around!

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I heard about this one a little while ago, and it's good to see that it works well via Proton! :grin:

I love the look of the fabric textures on the puppets, incidentally, since it really captures the way that the Sesame Street cast looked soft and fuzzy on TV - little details like that are more impactful to the look of a game than hyper-realism, I feel.

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Quoting: WorMzyIn before Pengli-

About the author - Pengling

Never mind. :whistle:

Hehehe! :grin:

And as I've said a few times in the Weekend Players' Club threads over on the forum, if any fellow GOL'ers have the game (doesn't matter which platform, since it has crossplay), please do PM me if you want to set up a match. :wink:

Quoting: GroganWhen I saw the headline, I thought "Pengling is going to like this" then... "oh wait!" :-)

I couldn't let the game getting a Steam Deck rating go by without submitting an article! :grin: (And goodness, it's not like Konami have marketed it much, which is utterly crazy given how marketable the game's cast are.)

Quoting: GroganNice write-up, it seems that game is a little more involved than I thought it would be.

Thankyou very much! :smile:

It's still got the series' trademark pick-up-and-play arcade-style* gameplay at its core, and multiplayer matches are correctly kept fairly brief (a few minutes each, generally, so good for slotting into get-togethers - though you can change that for certain modes, if you want), but the story-mode is a lot more experimental and exploratory than I expected (in a good way, though), and it still keeps the Saturday-morning-cartoon/animated-movie feel for the cutscenes (which I'm a big fan of - and I really do hope that the trademark coverage for a streaming-show amounts to something, like it did with the Castlevania shows on Netflix). I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it - even the somewhat-harsh final-boss gauntlet! :tongue:

*It feels a bit weird to say "arcade-style" here, as the series actually originated with "Bomber Man"/"Bakudan Otoko" [External Link], a 1983 title for various Japanese home-computers and also the British ZX Spectrum (published by the official Sinclair label under the unfortunate name of "Eric and the Floaters [External Link]" ), and it didn't get any arcade adaptations until later. Moreover, once the multiplayer mode was added, it became the first big multiplayer phenomenon to spawn from home-gaming instead of from the arcades.

Quoting: StoneColdSpiderSo Pengling blows the doors up to the new servers........ And then gets an article published a few days later???.......
theres no justice in this world......

GOD DAMMIT PENGLING!!!!!

Hahahahahahahaha! :grin:

Well, how do you think the door got blown up, exactly? :wink:

Quoting: jams3223Waiting for my favorite Bomberman fan to comment here.

Aww, thanks very much. :smile: Though, does the article itself count? :tongue:

Quoting: Purple Library GuyYou . . . might want to have a quick look at the previous comments. :grin:

On that note, thanks very much for the nice comments, all of you. :smile:

Looks like [External Link] the game's got another update in the works, already - hopefully they'll get it bumped up to Verified at some point, as well as restore the unlockable content from previous titles that's inexplicably missing from this one. Hopefully I can post an update or another article then. :smile:

Quoting: hardpenguinI'll just say it... Ahem... STADIA

You're thinking of a different game - the now-delisted Super Bomberman R Online [External Link]*, the second of the three modern titles, and the greatest free-to-play game there ever was and ever will be. That game was partly a feature-test for the online component in Super Bomberman R 2, and its content lives on there. :smile:

*Not to be confused with Super Bomberman R [External Link].

Super Bomberman R Online being Stadia-exclusive for its first few months means that it would've been the first Bomberman game to have a native Linux build (which I think might make Bomberman the very first of the classic Japanese gaming icons to get that for something that wasn't an emulated retro re-release?*) - though sadly the slightly-later multi-platform release of SBRO didn't make that build available to the public. It was perfect under Proton, though. I'm curious to see what developer HexaDrive [External Link] (a Japanese indie outfit that Konami has handling the modern Bomberman games) will do in the future, in that regard.

*EDIT: My bad, Pac-Man was the first! The two have had a Japan-only official crossover [External Link] in the past, though. :tongue:

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Quoting: Talon1024When a game developer does a rerelease like this, one would assume they would test the game on Windows. If the game works on Windows, but is broken on Linux (but not because of Anti-Cheat middleware or DRMalware), it leads me to believe the game would work on Linux if the developer bothered to work on, and regularly test, a native Linux port of the game.

They've got native versions for other platforms, but those have problems too. They may not be the same problems, but the general impression I'm getting is that this collection has been botched, even on much larger platforms than ours.

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