Quoting: Ehvis

Quoting: omer666To be fair, Quake had an awesome modding community which gave birth to both Capture the Flag and class-based TDM, but Valve had the idea to actually support this community by distributing a great number of them.

Wasn't the Quake modding community just a continuation of the Doom one? Even the first Doom had support for PWADs, which was basically id software enabling modding support from the start.

You are right but Quake's C code allowed things to go far beyond what DooM allowed. Have a look at some gems like Quake Rally or Kickflip. It's also Quake which started the whole Machinima scene, showcasing the great flexibility of the engine.

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To be fair, Quake had an awesome modding community which gave birth to both Capture the Flag and class-based TDM, but Valve had the idea to actually support this community by distributing a great number of them.

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Team Fortress 2 was based on what a modder did (correct me if i am wrong).

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It reminds me of what happened with Metallica and Napster.

Lars Ulrich said that the lawyer told him he was losing big money because of MP3 sharing, next thing he did was to start a war against illegal music downloads, even if the band became famous in the 80s thanks to bootlegs and the tape trading mailing lists.

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Playing Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition on Steam Play. Recommended.

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Quoting: omer666I mean, he just pointed out two related facts.

There is no proof whatsoever that EAC's decision is in anyway related to Epic acquiring them.

Quoting: omer666Two of the biggest exclusive contracts they got (Metro and Borderlands) had their previous episodes ported to Linux, which obviously means they won't be ported just now (or won't be at all)

Borderlands 2 was ported to Linux a full 2 years after release, so I don't see how this is suddenly a problem about Epic's involvement. Metro Exodus is a 1 year exclusive and Borderlands 3 is a 6 month one.

Quoting: omer666They advocate the use of Lutris the way id software suggested to improve Wine support: now that we don't care anymore, just help yourself.

They have no immediate plans for a Linux client because they have much bigger priorities, rightly so. In the meantime they are not only suggesting using Lutris, but are also willing to fund Lutris via grants. How is that a bad thing?

Quoting: omer666But to accuse Liam of flaming... Sounds like "Come on, those damn journalists, can't they keep their mouth shut?" to me...

Perhaps I have different expectations for what that word means, but I don't think it's journalism to post pure unsubstantiated speculation knowing that it will help form a pitchfork mob.

I guess you're right about those points you make. I was just trying to summarize the many ways people can see the situation just now, not really my opinion.
As for "journalism", I guess some like it with more or less subjectivity, in the present case I don't mind though. It's up to people not to overinterpret it, which indeed isn't what people usually do on the internet. In this day and age, a single word can turn into a sharp knife. I really don't think that's what Liam had on his mind when writing.

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This thread is infected with so many internet tropes, it's ludicrous to read.

There are the post-Cold War comments in all their glory, fuelled by the confusion between Tecent/Epic/Chinese Government...

Then there is that thing about Liam's line on Easy-anti Cheat. Where do you see a conspiracy theory on his wording? I mean, he just pointed out two related facts. I do see why the topic gets emotional, though:

1. Epic used to be very supportive up to UT 2004
2. Now they really don't care
3. Two of the biggest exclusive contracts they got (Metro and Borderlands) had their previous episodes ported to Linux, which obviously means they won't be ported just now (or won't be at all)
4. They advocate the use of Lutris the way id software suggested to improve Wine support: now that we don't care anymore, just help yourself.

So there are plenty of reasons to be displeased with them, which are as many ways to fuel some sort of paranoia.

But to accuse Liam of flaming... Sounds like "Come on, those damn journalists, can't they keep their mouth shut?" to me...

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@epic, look at Quake Champions. That's the kind of games we want to play: Violent, fast-paced FPS. Not some gimmicky nonsense for kids.

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I've been owning a license for several years now and it's always been a way better experience than stock wine or PoL. But I've got to say that Proton changed this a great deal lately, and I've been using Steam to play Windows games ever since it went public. Nevertheless, I'm pretty sure I'll be renewing my license next August just to support wine development.

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Quoting: cRaZy-bisCuiT

Quoting: edmondo

Quoting: heidi.wengerWhat about that much talked about "Navi"? So this is not it at all?

Navi will come later. Most of us are surprised to see Vega II at all. It seems AMD has seen an opportunity in the market for it, probably strong 7nm process (and Nvidia skyrocketing prices).

Where do you see this opportunity? The price is about the same. Just because of vram?

When it comes to components, $100 is a lot of money, though.

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