Quoting: EikeNeither case sensitivity nor insensitivity should create bugs on their own.
People not caring for rules of their system(s) create bugs.

Yes people create bugs that I agree. But it is much easier to create bugs on case sensitive systems so thats why I do not like them. All in all if software is written in Linux then you will never have problems with cases sensetivity because you will fix them moment you misplace case. But if you wrote software in windows you will maybe find this bug much more later and it will become much more annoying to fix because people will make mistakes and you will be forced to fix.

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Quoting: Eike

Quoting: ImantsAs such case sensitivity becomes annoying feature of Linux which mostly is hated because it does not have any useful meaning as just be annoying and create bugs.

I would say, case insensitivity more and more becomes an annoying feature of Windows which mostly is hated because it does not have any useful meaning as just be annoying and create bugs.

Microsoft should not have done that. While it is very useful in file dialog boxes not to be forced to type the correct casing, on file system level I don't consider this a useful feature, and if Microsoft wouldn't have done it the way they did, it would feel just natural for everyone to use the matching names instead of some nearly matching ones.

How can case insensitivity create bugs. I am programmer for about 8 years and only case sensitivity was causing bugs for me. Not only in file name but in string compression and in dynamics case sensitive languages like python where you accidentally name one variable in different case and all your program sops working. So I am now just curious how case insensitivity could create bugs?

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Quoting: Imants

Quoting: GuestI have had these issues while porting a game to Linux and honestly it’s a pain. Now, if a game that needs porting has many wrongly-cased files, I’d probably write a code layer to remove the filesystem’s case-sensivity and be done with it.

I wonder if there is *any* point in having case-sensivity in a file system. I have never needed it and it has always been a nuisance.

Yes I did not see in case sensitive file system any point as only that programmers where lazy implementing it. Because it is much assayer to just compare byte by byte. The idea that you can have two files with same name but different case semis ridiculous to me. And it becomes such a bother when you are working in team and others are working in windows. I always tough that it is one of cons for Linux.

Teams should be a total non issue. As soon as you have Teams involved then there should be coding standards and none of this stuff should rear it's ugly head ever again. It's very much comparable to what is typically imposed on the source code (and someone already brought up that).

Standards are useless without control. And it is very hard to control because windows will not give you any error. And most coding is in windows and only porting happens in Linux. As such case sensitivity becomes annoying feature of Linux which mostly is hated because it does not have any useful meaning as just be annoying and create bugs. I daily check code quality and it is hard as it is I do not need extra work to check if all committed assets are in lower case.

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Quoting: GuestI have had these issues while porting a game to Linux and honestly it’s a pain. Now, if a game that needs porting has many wrongly-cased files, I’d probably write a code layer to remove the filesystem’s case-sensivity and be done with it.

I wonder if there is *any* point in having case-sensivity in a file system. I have never needed it and it has always been a nuisance.

Yes I did not see in case sensitive file system any point as only that programmers where lazy implementing it. Because it is much assayer to just compare byte by byte. The idea that you can have two files with same name but different case semis ridiculous to me. And it becomes such a bother when you are working in team and others are working in windows. I always tough that it is one of cons for Linux.

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Quoting: Ignis>working around issues like case sensitivity on the Linux side for filenames

What's more weird is the fact that programmers didn't use everything in lowercase from the start. They are pretty used to case sensitivity :O

When I started programing on Linux I hated case sensitivity and I still hate it :). This was one of the many windows features I liked.

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I got segfault. Someone else got it running?

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Quoting: Armand RaynalWHY DO YOU PREFER GNU/LINUX ?

That's the question.

If it's not for the ideology, why ?

Linux is cheaper :). Now MS wants to push new windows version every few years and force us to buy it. I do not like it.

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Quoting: lavemaybe its related to why one switched to linux in the first place. for me it was never about the money i have to spend on a windows license, it was about beeing disgusted with all those DRM platforms: GfWl breaking my games when suspended, Steam beeing heavy on my netbook performance, UPlay installation just because of the 1 Ubisoft game i own.

I think you are right. I switched to Linux only because I did not want to buy windows licenses for my 3 old computers after Windows XP era ended and I newer actually cared about other stuff.

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Quoting: ImantsI never saw DRM-free as selling point.

And a lot of Linux users see it as a selling point and never buy games with DRM or use DRMed services. And GOG is targeted for such users.

Maybe some people need this feature but I do not see DRM-free is main selling point to many people (btw I do not hate drm-free services). Thats why I do not see how this could even a little make steam less monopoly. If I would see a game on steam and on galaxy I would buy it in steam because I trust steam. And I don't think that many people will choose galaxy over steam because it is DRM-free. Galaxy will need to do more.

Only good point of galaxy which I see for now is that it will contain much less (if any) crappy games.

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Quoting: Blob

Quoting: ImantsWe have steam allredy why do we even need Galaxy?

DRM-free?

I never saw DRM-free as selling point. I had a lot games in CD-s which was DRM-free as they do not ask CD-key. By now I have lent (and never got back :(), lost or broke most of them so I do not see any point in CD-s or DVD-s now. And I do not see any point in DRM-free digital games never have problems with steam even when my Internet connection went down I could play most of them. I only hate heavy DRM which directly annoys me. I myself could care less about hidden DRM-s if they are not directly affecting me.

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