Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: SkarjakComplaining about fragmentation is completely ridiculous.

To you maybe, but some of us know what fragmentation causes.

Quoting: SkarjakA lot of people seem to think they can tell others what to do with their time.

No one is telling anyone what to do lol, cool down.

I hope you realize this in no way addresses my point.

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Complaining about fragmentation is completely ridiculous. The whole point of free software is that people are given the freedom to make their own versions and share them.

A lot of people seem to think they can tell others what to do with their time. "No, don't work on that project, I don't like it! Work on this other thing instead!" Tough luck, people can decide to do whatever they want and they don't need your permission. You can complain if you want but it's not gonna make people stop working on whatever they feel like working on.

Basically, no one owes anything to anyone. Everyone is free to work on what they want.

I, for one, am glad that people have decided to maintain Unity for those who use it. I'm more of a i3 guy myself but there's a lot of people who enjoyed Unity's features.

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The funniest part of this discussion is how utterly pointless it is. People who want to buy games from resellers, or even pirate them, will do it regardless of whatever judgment you attempt to pass on them. To quote a common saying in this thread: "Deal with it."

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I feel that someone could essentially one-up you and ask you why you feel entitled to buy games at sales price, and complain that you are participating in a race to the bottom that is hurting indies. In fact I've read blog posts from multiple indie developers making exactly that claim, linked on this site.

It turns out that morality is kind of a subjective thing. People have different perspectives and stakes in this issue.

I am glad this article is there to answer questions that people might have about how to support games on gnu+linux, but I think the best approach is to present the facts without judgment and let people use their own sense of morality to make their decisions.

I don't want to diminish the work you do with this site, I just think there could be a little more nuance there.

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I'm with you on everything except the shaming of people with little financial means who use key resellers. Someone who struggles to make ends meet and has to decide how to spend what little income they have on a bit of entertainment should not really concern themselves with philosophical battles over free software and the like. Worrying about gnu+linux and stuff like that is the domain of the wealthy, people who have their basic needs easily taken care of and are looking for stuff to care about. When you don't have much you just try to get by. And yes, you do need entertainment of some form if you don't want to go crazy, it's not entirely a luxury, and a cheap computer + cheap games can be very cost-effective in that regard.

Also, I think they are absolutely entitled to purchase keys from these companies, as they are operating legally. If Steam is not happy with G2A, they can sue them out of existence. Assuming they will win. Until then, it's a legit, albeit possibly morally questionable company.

In the end, these people are not stealing. They are paying for a product. It comes off as very self-righteous to criticize, or give lessons about "entitlement". Almost like an organic food supporter chewing out someone on welfare for buying cheap, non-organic veggies.

People have other stuff to worry about.

But of course, for the rest of us who have large quantities of disposable income, we should not support these resellers if we want to see the platform supported.

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I think the problem is that gamers are by and large a captive audience. It seems most of us cannot stand to not be playing the "hot new game", so they will buy it anyway and play it on a Windows partition or wine, or otherwise support companies that don't treat them right.

There are other games out there, too many for me to play. Even on gnu+linux. So it's not that big of a deal to swear off from buying a certain company's product if they don't treat us right.

Companies have no incentive to treat us right if they know they will get our business whatever they do.

This is why you see companies yanking their customers around with ridiculous DLC and preorder bonuses, even in the Windows world. Gamers need to be more assertive customers.

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I am so tired of all this bait and switch from supposedly reputable developers. If you confirm a port, then it has to come out. You can't suddenly switch to "well, we're exploring it!". You've made a promise, and people may have preordered based on that promise.

At least I'm glad I didn't preorder this. I was thinking of doing it when they had the steam controller bundle out but now I am glad I didn't.

If this port doesn't come out I swear I will never buy a Firaxis or Aspyr product ever again. This is no joke.

And I wish more people had this attitude. Companies have to understand that they will lose our business if they yank us around.

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I wouldn't be too worried abut he windows partition issue. People, especially those running rolling release distros, won't necessarily remove their windows partition, even if they don't use it. I still have it even though I never log on to windows, but my next computer will have only linux. I just can't be bothered to reformat it. :p Oh and I guess I got Dead Space 3 and Mass Effect 3 on origin a while ago and I intend they play them before removing the partition. But like I said, that windows partition doesn't get used at all right now.

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That is an extremely clever mechanic. Having to choose between mobility or offense in this fashion will make for a very tactical game.

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I have had strange issues using the logitech F710 controller and xpad. The sticks have a very large deadzone, but only in steam games. Games played outside of steam have almost no deadzone. It really bothers me...

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