Quoting: lucifertdarkLutris is PlayOnLinux+, it does exactly what PlayOnLinux does but with a bit more polish & with the added advantage of Steam library integration, it's nice but Steam Play is possibly going to kill them both off, why would you need them for Steam games if Steam does it for you already? the only reason they may survive is for GOG games

Lutris also supports various emulators, DosBox, ScummVM, ResidualVM, etc. It really does a lot more than PlayOnLinux ever did.

I suspect Lutris will be just fine.

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Quoting: Jewgeni Filippowitsch IwanowskiAnd everything else works as intended? What about screen rotation (I know Gnome can do this out of the box)? If all works then this will be my next notebook. ^_^

As far as I know, rotation sensors don't work, although, to be hones, I've not checked or tried.

Otherwise, with the patch to the kernel to enable the touchscreen, everything works well. You need to have minimum 4.18 kernel version for any sense of stability. As of last night I'm on 4.19-RC1. So far so good. The Rumour mill says that 4.19 will have a bunch of Raven Ridge updates. I never tried without the patch to see if the touchscreen worked.

My previous laptop was 13.3" i7 + GTX765M based laptop. It was loud, and had horrible battery life. So far, compared to that, the HP Envy x360 has been fantastic! Sometimes, perspective is everything!

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Quoting: Jewgeni Filippowitsch Iwanowski

Quoting: hummer010That hasn't been my recent experience with Raven Ridge (I've got an HP Envy x360 with a 2500u). I don't think I've had a lockup since I started using 4.18. I'm rolling my own kernel to get the touchscreen working, but I haven't made any changes specific to Ryzen or Vega.

How did you configure your kernel or what patches did you apply to make it work? I fancy buying a HP Envy x360, too but haven't been aware of touchscreen problems.

This [External Link] is the only patch I've applied. The author of the patch admits freely that it's entirely a hack until AMD fixes the ACPI table. At least it makes the touchscreen work though.

Otherwise, I just use the stock Arch config.

Edit: Typo's, typo's everywhere!

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Setting up 20+games without any guarantees of success is kind of unpleasant and I have much less time then I used to have for this kind of stuff. SteamPlay is a no-brainer compared to that.

But, is SteamPlay any better? Unless you're playing one of the whitelisted games, there's no guarantee of success either. So far, I've got 3 working games out 5 attempted with SteamPlay, and 2 of the three worked perfectly with Lutris too.

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Quoting: liamdawe

Quoting: hummer010BlazeRush is on for ~$3, right after Liam's recommendation! [External Link]

Oh hell, how did I miss that :D

Like you said - with the number of games on sale, it was tough to parse the list down. I had it wishlisted after your recommendation. I've bought it now. I'm looking forward to testing it out with my kid tonight!

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Quoting: Salvatos

Quoting: hummer010I don't think this was as far out of reach as you think. Lutris has already made great strides in being a game client that automated installs for WINE based games. Obviously, Lutris can't have as tight an experience as Steam can for Steam games, but it's still quite good. Lutris had already given me that same experience you've just had, where you start playing games you wanted to play, because it's suddenly easy to play them.

Don't get me wrong, I think SteamPlay + Proton is a complete game changer, but I agree with mirv, we'd have got pretty close to the same experience eventually without Valve.

Having never used the former, how does Lutris differ from PlayOnLinux? Although PoL was supposed to simplify Wine, relying on a small team to prepare and update packages for every program out there still meant that a lot of the time what you were looking for wasn't in the library of preconfs or didn't work anymore. Proton being run by Valve/on Steam has the advantage of more dedicated support and a much larger audience to report issues and suggest fixes; and already it seems to run a lot of games very well out of the box, instead of holding your hand while you jump through hoops but not actually removing the hoops (like PoL).

Similar, but different. Lutris is, at the forefront, a game client. You add games to it, and then you can access all your games, just like the Steam client (I actually prefer the interface of Lutris). Lutris can connect to your Steam account, and automatically import all of your steam games. Supposedly, they are working on doing the same thing with GOG. Lutris, will then manage the installation of the games, whether they are native from Steam, GOG, or otherwise. If it's a Windows game, Lutris will also install WINE. It can also manage games from a whole slew of emulators as well. Once the games are installed, you can run them from Lutris. Ultimately, it's a bit like an open source Steam client, without the backing of the steam library.

Sadly, on the WINE front, it is very similar to PoL, that the install scripts are maintained by a handful of people.

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And, it's on for ~$3 [External Link]

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BlazeRush is on for ~$3, right after Liam's recommendation! [External Link]

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Quoting: pb

Quoting: GuestIt's a subtle point that your own post misses: we most definitely would have reached here without Valve.

It's missing because I don't think it's true. I'd argue that we weren't at this point two weeks ago and that we wouldn't be for a long, long time. I have 6k games in my steam library, over half of them only have Windows version (I got them through bundles etc.). Over the last five years I played maybe three or four (sic!) of these games. All the tools were there: wine, crossover (which I bought and only ever used to play gog version of The Witcher), lutris, recently dxvk etc. etc. - but it was immensely impractical and thus for me too much of a bother. Not to mention that I'm mostly gaming on SteamOS with my kids and there was literally no way to play Windows games on SteamOS. Now? For the last week+ I've been playing dozens of Windows games which I've been long wanting to play - nothing spectacular, mostly puzzle games that were reportedly working fine with wine, but required starting a "wined" version of steam. Kids have been playing the LEGO and Sonic games, with controllers, out of the box... *This* is huge. The simple fact that one of the biggest players in the gaming market came, took all the existing tools and put them to a proper use. Yes, all these tools were there and lots of people put great effort into making them work - and for that they deserve full credit. But tools are always only tools, they don't make great things by themselves.

I don't think this was as far out of reach as you think. Lutris has already made great strides in being a game client that automated installs for WINE based games. Obviously, Lutris can't have as tight an experience as Steam can for Steam games, but it's still quite good. Lutris had already given me that same experience you've just had, where you start playing games you wanted to play, because it's suddenly easy to play them.

Don't get me wrong, I think SteamPlay + Proton is a complete game changer, but I agree with mirv, we'd have got pretty close to the same experience eventually without Valve.

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Quoting: EikeAnother tip: 39 Days to Mars

Thanks for another great looking suggestion! Wishlisted ...

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