Quoting: Numerfolt

Quoting: AsciiWolfAnd Mastodon is sadly even more toxic than X/Twitter.

Oh, that's interesting, I haven't encounterd much toxicity on Mastodon so far 🤔

Excited for Hytale tho!

Mastodon is very fragmented(by design).
Maybe he caught a very toxic server.

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Quoting: sarmadWhile I agree there is a lot of immorality in AI, avoiding it just puts you at a disadvantage since everyone is using it. So, you'll be harming yourself, not the unethical AI companies. The solution to the ethical dilemma should come from politicians, but they are unfortunately too corrupt to do the right thing.

AI companies are currently operating by dotcom logic.
The more users you've, the more you'll be able to lock in in the future and thus the more valuable your shares.
Boycotts do work to influence that metric.

This same logic also applies to this "disadvantage". The goal is vendor lockin they will try to get you to rely on their products to the level that you can't ditch them and they've many great minds working on that goal.
You'll pay a hefty sum when the time of income finally arrives.
Right now you're at a disadvantage if you use AI, because they're buying your dependence with low prices.

Spoiler, click me

This also, why deepseek was such a shock.
It used a(known, but for good reasons avoided) cheaper method for training to achieve equal results and marketed it.
It presented the threat that someone without trillions in capital could compete with their champions.

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Wine has caught up with Windows in version numbering.

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Quoting: johndoe1. In Germany we still have to pay "Solidaritätszuschlag" (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarit%C3%A4tszuschlag).
This money could be given to EU Sovereign Tech Fund (EU-STF) instead.

2. Forbid (proprietary) file formats like doc, docx, ppt, pptx, xls, xlsx, rtf, tnef, ... in the EU (public and private sector). We already have ODF.
Force developers/companies of proprietary software to support ODF as first-class citizen.
Every mail server (public and private sector) should be configured to deny mails with these file attachments.

3. Force M$ to release a free converter for all their proprietary file formats into ODF. The results must be 101%😁

4. Forbid proprietary protocols and APIs.

5. Force developers/companies of proprietary software to support free SQL-Backend alternatives like MariaDB and PostgreSQL and treat them as first-class citizen.

This would be a good start... man can dream.

Edit!
Ohhh boy, I forgot the most important...
6. Forbid DirectX and Mantle.

The EU once strongarmed [External Link] Microsoft in opening up the docx format for MS office 2007 Microsoft spend the following decade trying to put that genie back into the bottle.
This was only meagerly successfull.
As such Libre office has nowadays somewhat acceptable docx support.

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Quoting: Liam Dawe

Quoting: LoudTechieOn the nitpicky side, the call for evidence is for how to steer european open source toward their objectives, not the importance.

Well, it's both. It's clearly important because they're looking to base their future on it, and they want to steer people to them.

Ah, Interperted your sentence wrong. I thought you said they were still trying to figure out how important it is.

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Quoting: Pikolo

Quoting: LoudTechieMy proposals were.
Publish cryptographic hashes of restricted material, so small player can collaborate to implement filters for illegal information like CSAM and copyright protected material allowing them to more cheaply preform moderation responsibilities.

Perceptual hashing [External Link], used for copyrighted content and CSAM detection is very different from cryptographic hashing. The goal is to catch images and videos that are "sufficiently similar". It's as vague as it sounds, and unless configured with a very low sensitivity is guaranteed to cause false positives. When configured with low sensitivity, it's possible to bypass. When you take into account the quantity of CSAM perceptual hashes out there, false positives happen regularly. So you can either block everything, or block random things. Far from a solved problem

Using perceptual hashing for copyright enforcement is even worse, because the algorithm has no way to account for exceptions to copyright [External Link]. That should always be a human's judgement call, but with copyright trolls in the picture you get a lot of pressure towards false positives.

I know this.
I asked for cryptographic hashes, because it's better than nothing and can be used as a start to build a functioning system.
Cryptographic hashes can be freely published, since they're cryptographic hashes meaning that they're sufficiently resistant to collision, decompression and other attacks.
Many parties can't get access to the perceptual hashes normally used to enforce laws, yet still want to host lawabiding servers.
A list of cryptographic hashes could be used for the following:
- public accountability of what's being removed by government mandate(throw your sensitive publications in a hashing algorithm and find out if you're being censored)
- A self hosted file server/forum/other user content providing service, which can build perceptual hashes from the lazily posted illegal content it catches on its own server(only one criminal has to be too lazy to edit a file and all instances already on the server can be caught, repeat offenders can be used as data mines for more cryptographic and perceptual hashes, trust of law enforcement can be won by reporting).
These servers would never publish the perceptual hashes they generate, just provide back cryptographic hashes to the project that enables them to automate large part of their moderation, which can use this to enable more to catch and share.

Edit:
Also cryptographic hashes are accurate, which means they won't be dealing with too much false positives and can carefully expand their coverage avoiding many of the mistakes big tech made along the way.

Beside that European copyright exception are only slightly comparable to US copyright exceptions.
They might have the opportunity to fine tune on the way.

Law based moderation software packages tend to be expensive riddled with NDA's, big tech dependencies and absolutely critical for anyone trying to solve the EU's hosting power problem.
This could be a start to a more open, accountable and sovereign European internet.

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Quoting: Jarmer

Quoting: tfkOpen source mobile phones,
Open source desktops,
From there,
EU based payment systems for easy EU based online transactions,
EU based and open source security layers for said payment providers.
Educational programs to show people how to be the owner of their own system again, and how to do critical thinking again.
Ban on American cloud services like Google, Microsoft, Amazon. I mean firewall block. Boom!

Edit: gave my feedback.

This all sounds amazing as an American. Especially the payment thing. Here we are so screwed with horrible options for sending money around in friend / family groups. Most people in my social circle still use venmo for everything which is just paypal, a horrifying company.

Microsoft is so screwed in the corporate sector. I don't think they care though, right now Satya's brain has turned completely to mush with ai garbage so he can't even think properly. The entire corporate world over the next decade is going to dump office (or copilot 365 app LOLOL) and windows, so that's a TON of revenue lost. Again I don't think microsoft cares, but it'll be interesting to see what happens with windows.

This is actually making great strides.
They're fusing the national payment providers many countries have naming it Wero.

They're also trying to work with India to bypass swift. [External Link]

Edit:
I give them >90% chance for achieving Wero
Just 60% for a successful Swift competitor.
China couldn't do it, Russia couldn't do it.
The EU does have a pretty serious market, their current system works EU wide and if this deal succeeds they might gain the backing of another serious market.
Also Trump is destroying the US market.
Yet, Swift's market dominance is legendary enough to move the worst dictators to tears and to make the CCP tremble.

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Quoting: syylkThe sooner the EU realizes that the US are not an ally anymore, the better.

That sound like input that's best directed at the "strategic foresight report" call for evidence.

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My proposals were.
Publish cryptographic hashes of restricted material, so small player can collaborate to implement filters for illegal information like CSAM and copyright protected material allowing them to more cheaply preform moderation responsibilities.
Back export controls up with sovereign hosting, iron clad NDA's and money.
Simplify copyleft enforcement.

Edit:
What would you guys propose?

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Yeah, I was pretty enthusiastic when I read that call and send some proposals and praise their way.

Edit: Also you don't have to be an EU-citizen to support feedback.
They've a seperate category for that.

On the nitpicky side, the call for evidence is for how to steer european open source toward their objectives, not the importance.

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