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Quoting: CorbenTHREE POINT TWO PERCENT?! What the heck! ... Proton, Steam Deck, PC gaming handhelds showing Linux distros working better on them than Windows

Only with AMD. With Nvidia it's a complete disaster. And Nvidia holds around 80-90% discrete GPU market share. You can't expect people to massively switch to Linux when it means losing up to 50% performance in DX12 games.

Is that still true, I see a lot of WINners(wordplay, I mean Windows users) complain about extra sucky NIVIDIA drivers and the other way around Linux has gotten a lot better NVIDIA support, since the AI boom.
In 2022 Pcgamers stated a 10%-20% preformance loss in non-cpu bottlenecked systems, otherwise it was actually better. [External Link]

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Good to see the small struggling tech company NVIDIA being able to push out some nice fixes, BUT we still have completely broken DX12 performance bug with MANY games (as per nvidia forum big thread about it).

One more good reason to switch to Linux...[/quote]I must congratulate @Liam, doitsuijn and Linus with the fact that this exchange is possible on this forum and commend @phil995511 for spotting the difference from so little information.

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Both Linux and Windows can run DX12 games, but when Linux has an issue with them the problem is DXVK or a Vulcan issue and when Windows has a problem it's a driver and kernel issue.

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Quoting: LachuOnly we wait for quantum wireless network, so people would not buy normal PC, but only displaying device and pay subscription. Maybe world will go in this direction? I do not joke. Imagine how many resources will be preserved - only one kernel for many devices, only one code for each program loaded into memory, only one copy of constant data loaded into memory, etc.

Current wireless technology already massively uses quantum effects.
Also it would only worsen the base resources problem.
There is a reason why better chips often means smaller transistor distance.
The more volume a signal has to cover the more the second law of thermodynamics will get involved.
Besides that the cloud providers haven't really shown they can be trusted with, so much control over people's data(not your hardware, not your data)

Still you're probably right that this will happen.
After the end of the AI bubble, all that cloud compute infrastructure will still exist and start to compete with other cloud computing infrastructure.
This will drive down the price of cloud subscriptions. Bringing people to do more and more in the cloud.

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As long there is considerable consumer demand for these labels, they should exist.
Even when there're liars at least the consumer can call them out(including at court for misleading advertising)
The consumer pays and is thus the boss. If you don't want to play by their rules a healthy market must punish you.
Otherwise the market loses its primary selling point compared to government involvement: competition leads to motivation to offer better products.

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Wow, that dude is hardline.
You make it harder to debug: keep yourself stable.
You start bitching: do it yourself.

Still I think he made legally the right choice.
Steam is DMCA protected any research published to find what crashed it is publishing works aiding with rendering effective technical measures ineffective and thus illegal.

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Quoting: LoftyThis is potentially actually amazing in so many ways if things hook up correctly. And i think Valve has possibly checkmated the entire industry here including mobile if im reading the room right, and i mean both Apple and Google.

So correct my if im wrong but the Frame uses Arch Linux ARM64-based operating system running on essentially a mobile chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (ARM64 architecture), the same high-end chip found in flagship Android smartphones..

So in theory, we just about wrangled ourselves away from Andriod / IOS and have a clear path way to a Linux Smart Phone. ( that can run PC games ). All it takes is for someone to get the Qualcomm firmware / cellular modem module loaded under Arch and fit a dongle or integrate it into a chassis with battery.

In fact i can just see a cool Grey smart phone with the embedded Valve logo on the back in black. fully running Arch with steam installed (of course).

*edit i wonder if this is why Google just did a full 180 on not allowing users to side load APK's or 3rd party stores. It might not have been for the 'community' after all, they saw what valve were doing.

No.
Android's dominant position doesn't come from any of this.
Many Linux phones can do this, those sanctioned Huawei phones can do this.

Their dominant position comes from Google play services(android equivalent to the windows api), Google play and modem-support and is enforced by device attestation and Widevine drm.

On cellular modem support. It's easy to underestimate the walls of that garden.
Let me put it this way. The IPhone was a gigantic upgrade in openness from the walls around the garden of providers.
This is the kind of place where spies sit at the negotiation table, everything is patented, encryption starts to become illegal, publishing code can be treason and merely running tests requires several different licenses and you have to get them par jurisdiction.

For google play services there is microg, but Huawei failed to effectively utilize that.

On your edit: Google always hated standard installing, they kept throwing around graphs about how clearly all viruses came from it, they added all kind of steps to avoid you doing it and they added it to their attestation program. They just couldn't go too far, because of regulators, the gpl and fear for consumer reaction. Also carriers have been testing apple like restraints and people haven't reacted too badly. It's just the next step nothing 180.

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Quoting: sarmadWill those Android games also work on amd64 CPUs, or just on the Frame?

Probably.
Amd64 to Arm emulators exist and work pretty well. [External Link] and Waydroid is open source.

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Quoting: dziadulewiczFortnite is available for Android. Does this mean Fortnite can soon be easily gamed on desktop Linux through Steam and those compat layers?

Not easily.
Fortnite tries to detect non-standard Android configs, which would easily penetrate something as flimsy as waydroid.
A distinction is though that there is already complete community build around circumventing these detection methods meaning that instead having to modify source code you can probably just downloads a few scetchy scripts to cricumvent it.

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Yeah, I can't deny this might be a success.
A lot still needs to be proven, but it could work.
Affordable VR is starting to hit the market.
Fortnite is a very stable engagement driver.
Many industry players would love to depose of Steam.
It must be clear to them all that they will be trading one overlord for another, but to some it might be worth the gamble.

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So now, windows stuff runs on Valve's hardware/software, android stuff runs on Valve's hardware/software, x86 runs on arm, which ecosystem would be next.

Based on technological maturity and (gaming) market size I would point to Nintendo, but I don't think Valve would sail these treacherous legal waters.

They could go after Apple, but they've little to gain from it and it would be lots of hard work.
The Darling project isn't nearly mature or legally stable enough right now.

TeslaOS can, but that would cost their protection as Tesla games monopolist, also that market is embarrassingly small.

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