Quoting: mr-eggSo yes, real world it does effect my tasks running an AMD CPU and my room would heat up too much on one of the monster TDP 8 core AMD CPU's vs the power sipping Intel alternative.

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Developing games on Linux is awesome because when they're done I get to play their game.

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I wouldn't worry about the coolers TDP in this case since the CPU will throttle itself if its temperature gets too high. Also TDP is only a general guideline most of the time since the efficacy of a CPU cooler is heavily influenced by a large number of differing factors that include airflow and the ambient temperature. You also have to factor in the processors real world usage. E.g. how many cores will be fully utilized and for how long.

It's important to note that a TDP rating isn't a rating for how much power a processor can draw, instead it's a rating that indicates how much heat the cooler will need to dissipate based on what the manufacturer believes to be normal usage. To give an example, a processor with a 125W TDP rating could consume closer to 180W when maxed out. If you were to put a 100% load on a processor for an extended period of time, say to render a 3D scene or encode a 4K video you could easily cause the temperature to rise beyond the acceptable limit even with a cooler that is rated for the recommended TDP.

This scenario however isn't likely given that Liam seems to be using this machine for gaming. As such I'd imagine that the majority of the time he won't even use 4 cores. Much less all 8 cores maxed in a loop that is designed wring every ounce of power out of it.

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I'm very glad to hear it. Their AMD support up till now has been somewhat disappointing. Course AMD is at fault as well.

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'Cause I'm only like a bird. I can't really fly away, but I sure wish I could!

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I'm not sure I'd be a good hunter, but I sure want to try! :-)

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Borderlands 1 would be a nice surprise. :-)

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Quoting: maodzedunI have an 4790k, how can that be a bottleneck for anything - last I checked this is the most powerful per core consumer grade CPU on the market. And for the record - I got around to installing the latest driver (after jumping some hoops of course) and I see a noticeable improvement in the Witcher 2 performance. And considering it's also an eON game, I'm guessing the problem is exactly the crappy driver that holds my Bioshock fps down.

You could have a super computer and it wouldn't change the fact that it's an eON game.

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Quoting: maodzedunIs that why Bioshock drops to 30fps on medium in open spaces for me? Must be the insane performance I get from my 290x. Meanwhile in Windows I'm downscaling The Witcher 2 from 1440p and Planetside 2 from 4K and average over 60fps in both game. Please, AMD performance sucks big time. If I was intent on using Linux exclusively I wound't buy an AMD card if they gave me money to do it. Right now, a user who wants to game in Linux using AMD hardware has two choices - either use a crappy proprietary blob that provides 50% performance AT BEST if you're lucky and brings a number of bugs on the table, OR use the open source drivers which also bring sub par performance, lack proper GUI and come with various bugs, as well. Man, I'm truly shocked that no manufacturer would build a Steam Machine around these energy inefficient and heat producing GPUs that have been having inherently bad drivers for year. And don't even get me started on crossfire support.

No, that's because Bioshock is an eON title and your CPU is bottle necking your performance. That's hardly AMD's fault.

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@AMD haters; have any of you used AMD's latest drivers? I have and I have to say they've made a lot of improvements regarding both performance and stability. So before you continue to bash them with outdated information, perhaps you should open your mind to the posibility that things can change.

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