Quoting: AppelsinAnd it doesn’t discriminate if it’s brainwashing in favor of crazy left or of crazy right.

There is some evidence this may not be the case in practice, and this is understandable theoretically: While the radical left and radical right would both make significant differences to the average person's life should they take over, the radical right wouldn't make much difference to the prosperity of the very rich, and might actually increase their wealth and power still further. So owners of platforms have no reason to see them as a serious threat. Whereas the radical left could significantly impact the fortunes of the very wealthy even if they merely became influential enough to shift the "Overton Window" to where 70s-style redistributive taxation became feasible. So owners of platforms have strong motivation to keep left wing talk out of view.
Disclaimer: I'm a crazy leftist, so my position may be biased.

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Quoting: Purple Library Guy

Quoting: itscalledrealityNotice that everyone has dropped the “it’s impossible to develop for Linux because of marketshare” bologna.

That's because they think the marketshare is increasing. There's nothing contradictory there.

Yes I believe the last report was that marketshare had increased from 1% to 1.5%. Which is not a substantial enough increase to kill that argument. So it is contradictory.

increasing

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Quoting: Philadelphus

Quoting: Purple Library GuyWait, in XCOM 2 the aliens already won before the beginning? I feel like I was playing a different game.

We are talking about the same game, right?

I . . . guess not.

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Quoting: itscalledrealityNotice that everyone has dropped the “it’s impossible to develop for Linux because of marketshare” bologna.

That's because they think the marketshare is increasing. There's nothing contradictory there.

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Quoting: Pengling

Quoting: KlaasIt depends. The next video recommendations have a tendency to point towards conspiracy theories, dangerous crafts hacks and other weird stuff.

Quoting: randylThe recommendations on my page personally aren't filled with conspiracy theory stuff so much as content I'm just not interested in.

I get what Klaas describes, and the weird "Up Next/Related" content that gets chucked at me has zero to do with what I actually watch - that mainly being video game playthroughs either to seek out what I might like or to watch someone else's views on stuff that I wouldn't enjoy playing myself, food-science videos, and generally-humourous scambaiting streams and documentaries, plus listening to video game music and 1970s/1980s/1990s tunes.

I have personalised recommendations turned off, but until recently the non-personalised "Up Next/Related" stuff was still fairly relevant (i.e., other scambaiting content, different people's playthroughs of similar games/genres, funny reviews and taste-tests of expired food) - then a few months ago it suddenly started suggesting weird conspiracy-theories, dangerous "crafts", random people's/organisations' rants/vlogs/streams on subjects of no interest and relation to what I watch, and other stuff that generally appears to be trying to funnel me towards clickbait. If I want to look through it, I have to scroll down to see more relevant stuff at the side of a playing video, and the weird things get higher billing than the relevant ones.

I've seen a bit of stuff from the content creator end of this. Saw a couple of youtube videos from people involved in stuff around medieval weaponry and culture, saying that the policy changed recently-ish and seems less interested in users' personal preferences and more in more global ideas of popularity, to the point where even their subscribers are often not notified of their stuff, and their views are plummeting because people interested in their kind of content are no longer being shown their videos as viewing options.
It doesn't help that Google owns some content creation now, and of course has relationships with big advertisers who are also big content creators . . . there's no reason to trust Youtube to be a level playing field.

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Quoting: setzer22I still don't understand how they hooked a machine learning algorithm into an automated system that could ruin some creator's livelihood and called it a day...

Next up, our taxes are going to be decided by some black box deep neural model based on how good of a citizen we are...

Isn't that what China is calling "Social Credit"?

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Quoting: Purple Library GuyI pay a lot of attention to political economy. I tend to follow Latin America in particular because some of the most interesting politics, with the most potential for shifts from the rather putrid status quo, happens there.

I agree, you can't get bored in Latin America, sadly I live here in Argentina. Stuck between the hyper corrupt left or the riged and incompetent right. The mid doesn't exist, or at least people can't see it.
Enough politics tho, this is not Twitter. lol

I'm a leftist myself, but I can tell the left-ish government in Argentina can't be that great because there hasn't been a coup attempt. :whistle:

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Quoting: Philadelphus

Capes is set in a world where the villains won, brutally. Two decades later, a new generation of heroes are rising up and that's where you come in. […]and it all seems a little XCOM[…]

That's basically the plot of XCOM 2, with superheroes. :smile: Which is not a bad thing, XCOM 2 is pretty high up there in my list of most-played games.

Wait, in XCOM 2 the aliens already won before the beginning? I feel like I was playing a different game.

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Quoting: lectrodeThe "How your content violated the policy" is pretty telling:

Content that shows viewers how to gain unauthorized free access to audio content, audiovisual content, full video games, software or streaming services that normally require payment is not allowed. This policy applies to videos, video descriptions, comments, live streams, and any other YouTube product or feature. Keep in mind that this list is not comprehensive.

Somehow the algorithm marked the video basically as piracy (or explaining how to pirate video games / software).

It would be interesting to know exactly what in the video caused it to do that. That's one of the rare videos Liam posts that doesn't include gameplay footage, only changelogs of steam os.

If I had to guess, it may have been the mention of a software version that isn't currently available yet (steam os 3.4 beta update). The algorithm may have mistook the intent of the video as being how to get it early and/or leaked or somesuch.

Despite my earlier all-out personalization of the bot :grin:, I don't think that what these algorithms do is close enough to human thinking patterns to coherently talk about the algorithm "mistaking the intent" of something. The algorithm flags words and word patterns that have often in the past matched up (according to human programmers or "trainers") with other word pattern examples; it knows not what their intent might be, either the examples or the ones it flags.

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Quoting: Mischief

Quoting: Purple Library GuySo. Right wing free-trader governments ran up debts, which Argentina could not pay. This caused the crisis of 2000; the centre-left governments that resulted stopped paying those debts, and Argentina recovered some.

You are informed about it, Do you live in Argentina?

I pay a lot of attention to political economy. I tend to follow Latin America in particular because some of the most interesting politics, with the most potential for shifts from the rather putrid status quo, happens there.

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