Quoting: Guest

Quoting: Narvarth

Quoting: PierreLucDaoustIt felt like a downgrade, but a leaved Manjaro for Mint a few months ago. I had anxiety attacks everytime I read «kernel» and/or «Nvidia» in the updates. Mint was the winner of the day.

That's why I switched from Debian (after 10 years) to Mint. Debian was systematically breaking with nvidia update. I had to use bash scripts to get back my drivers, or even with the terminal (for ex, change the actual gcc version, which didn't match the one used to compile the nvidia drivers, etc.).
Mint is really a relaxing distro, even though I use it for "advanced use".

The problem with Debian is that it currently doesn't have enough maintainers left to support the releases throughout their lifecycle. So a lot of security fixes come very late in Debian. And there are also some other problems with Debian at the moment: https://unixsheikh.com/articles/the-delusions-of-debian.html [External Link]

The browsers in Debian Stable are also very outdated versions, while in FreeBSD, for example, which is a more stable system than Debian, you always have the latest browser versions of Firefox and Chromium.

If you really seriously want good stability, then FreeBSD is currently better than just about all Linux distros: https://it-notes.dragas.net/2022/01/24/why-were-migrating-many-of-our-servers-from-linux-to-freebsd/ [External Link]

It is difficult to describe the degree to which I don't give a damn about FreeBSD.

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Quoting: iiariHaving been on Arch based distros a number of years now, I can't believe in 2022 there are still distros like Mint and I'm guessing Elementary where full reinstalls are necessary for version upgrades? Wow....

Well, that was rude. Shall I diss Arch now?

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Quoting: jensSo it would indeed a recommendation matrix like:

You love customization and like to play with the desktop itself: go KDE with
OpenSuse or Arch (more stable vs more bleedeing edge)

You love the less is more approach and prefer a desktop that goes out of your way: go Gnome with
Debian or Ubuntu or Fedora (from stable to more bleeding edge)

(I’ve only stated the desktops and distributions I somewhat know, there are of course more)

I'd add in:

You prefer a "traditional" desktop and for things to Just Work, but don't require bleeding edge releases: Go Cinnamon or Mate on Mint.

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Quoting: F.Ultra

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Quoting: whizse

Quoting: frykBut what I never want to go back to, is having to read all that conversation on screen. Voice-Over please :-)

Hah! I'm very much the opposite. Zero patience for voice. I finish reading. I click to skip. :tongue:

What I never get is why they voice the replies that my character does, I mean I read the entire reply when choosing to click it so why did I just have to spend time hearing it as well?

Especially since they always get someone to do the voice that doesn't sound like me at all. Terrible research on their part! :grin:

Hard to tell since I don't know how you sound ;)

He's a Library Guy: he rarely speaks and when he does, he does it very quietly.

Hee!

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This is great! Upgrading was always the thing I found most problematic about Mint. And it frustrated me because I'd experienced fairly seamless upgrading at least some of the time with Mandrake/Mandriva, so I know it's possible.
But we'll see . . . past Mint upgrade-related tools have been a bit iffy. I'm certainly not going to stop keeping /home on a separate partition!

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Quoting: pleasereadthemanualI tried to give Fedora a shot last year when my laptop's NIC died, but I couldn't figure out how to get the Wi-Fi driver compiled. I messed around with DNF, Yum, and probably yet another package manager but never ended up getting an internet connection after a few hours. On Arch, it took me about 2 hours to follow a pretty simple guide to getting my Wi-Fi drivers compiled.

I don't think I'll ever be able to use another distribution; Arch is the only one I've been able to figure out.

Hours to do what now? Sometimes I feel like using Mint and using most other distros is more like using a whole different OS. You install it, the stuff works, you start using it. Two hours? To compile a basic thing? Or worse? Gah. I don't have the time (or knowledge) for that nonsense.

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Quoting: gradyvuckovicThe reality is, for most people, software sits in the same place as a toaster does in day to day life. I have never once contacted the manufacturer of a toaster to say thankyou and that I appreciate all the effort that went into designing, building and shipping millions of reliable toasters at an affordable price that toast bread daily with an easy to use mechanism. In fact I've never thought about the work that likely goes into creating a product like that before using it as an example just now.

Heh. Toasters are perhaps a bad example, in that all the basic ideas were well over half a century ago, and nowadays any R&D goes mainly into coming up with largely useless bells and whistles to get people to buy new ones, or research into just how fragile they can build them before people get so fed up with toasters dying that they stop making toast. It is fairly easy if you're producing toasters, to make them so they'll literally last decades, but they carefully don't because then who would they sell toasters to?
Toasters are basically deliberate crippleware at this point, in a way open source software isn't. So we should definitely be more grateful to people who make open source software than to toaster manufacturers. :grin:

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Quoting: sevenare there any sales figures? i would really like to know that

Nope. I doubt they are gonna release them.

In a way they're not really relevant as sales figures yet anyway. What they would be is production figures until they can reach the point where they are actually able to produce more than people are trying to buy.
Although sure, I would like to hear more about how fast their production is ramping up.

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Quoting: GuestI quite enjoyed Wheel of Time, and was reminded of it recently from the "tv" series adaptation (which I also enjoyed). Not yet read any of the books.

I'm opinionated about fantasy books, and Wheel of Time is no exception.
IMO, the first one is really very good, although it should be noted that the plot is very much Lord of the Rings reheated. In the second, it starts to bring you into the wider Wheel of Time universe, which has tons of interesting stuff. It's also very good. In the third, you get more of that, lots of cool weird magic stuff, lots of plot complication, lots of local colour of various sorts.
But some of the series' problems start to become noticeable around the third book; I started noticing that most of the characters were jerks, and some of the jerky things they did, the author didn't seem to notice they were being jerks. This was sort of even more so with the female characters. As complications piled on top of complication, the action started to slow down. As power levels stacked up, Jordan kept having to come up with ways to top that. Somewhere in there a new group of antagonists showed up whose defining cultural feature was indulging in squicky mind-control torture porn using these pain-conditioning leash things.
By the fifth or sixth book, I realized pretty much nothing was happening over the course of a many-hundred-page novel and I gave up. I feel like Jordan was a victim of his own success--the first couple of books sold like crazy, so someone, whether he himself or the publisher, decided he could do no wrong and didn't edit him.

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Quoting: whizse

Quoting: frykBut what I never want to go back to, is having to read all that conversation on screen. Voice-Over please :-)

Hah! I'm very much the opposite. Zero patience for voice. I finish reading. I click to skip. :tongue:

What I never get is why they voice the replies that my character does, I mean I read the entire reply when choosing to click it so why did I just have to spend time hearing it as well?

Especially since they always get someone to do the voice that doesn't sound like me at all. Terrible research on their part! :grin:

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