Quoting: Whitewolfe80

Quoting: officerniceyou know you can install it on any distro right its just an environment/window manager you can install any of them

I know that, but I almost sure Cinnamon won't support wayland in a near future [External Link], and personally I don't want to go back to x11 despite having to use Gnome

I don't think that link went where you intended it to go.

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Quoting: denyasisWine and the contributors behind it are true heros of Linux gaming.

I'll drink to that.

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Quoting: Shmerl

Quoting: TheRiddickNVIDIA has a 60-70% GPU market share on Windows, not sure what it is under linux, at least according to steam survey.

You can check GOL trends: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/index.php?module=statistics&view=trends#GPUVendor-top

When you think about it, that's pretty dashed fast movement. NVIDIA down 10%, AMD up 10% (so converging by 20%), in a year and a half. When you consider most people don't even change their graphics cards all that fast, the percentage of Linux card upgrades (around here at least) going with AMD has to be huge to push the figures at that rate.

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Quoting: 14I feel like we're starting to see the negative impact of Steam's Proton. That is: Larger development studios are no longer building (or porting) Linux releases because they can get Linux buyers "for free" anyway. Linux gamers (myself included) will buy the Windows version and rely on a compatibility tool to play.

I dunno. That may be the negative impact of Proton, or it may simply be a long term withdrawal due to market share. Back in the days when Valve was ramping up for the Steam Machine, Linux acquired a certain . . . perception that there might be momentum. Even after the Steam Machine failed, I think studios made quite a few games for it on the feeling that Valve would at some point do something that would push Linux share. That never happened, and we've been gradually returning to the base level of studio support one might expect for an OS with a 1%-ish market share ever since.
(Well, plus a bit more because its omnipresence everywhere except the desktop, plus sentimental/technical/ideological fondness for open source, commands quite a bit of developer mindshare. But still, especially at the larger studios, 1% with no obvious expectations for growth doesn't lead to a lot of development.)

Mind you, I do think that Linux desktop share is slowly growing . . . but it's very slow. And share of gaming desktops is probably growing slower than desktop share overall. Reasonably enough, because frankly while it's easy to argue that overall, Linux as a desktop is better than Windows and maybe Mac right now . . . there really is no argument for Linux being a better gaming desktop than Windows right now. This has little to do with the inherent characteristics of Linux as an OS and much to do with problems caused by market share. And it's plenty good enough for me because I'm a light gamer and my favourite kinds of games are well represented on Linux, and plausibly plenty good enough for many Linux users who game. But still, if you're going to ask which desktop is better for gaming right now, the answer is unfortunately obvious--even if Windows' advantages are largely irrelevant to my personal gaming experience, they are nonetheless there.

We could really use some sort of disruptive event that boosted market share to a level where developers needed to pay attention to us. Even getting to 10% would make a massive difference given the relative ease of cross-platform development nowadays. If that happened I don't think Proton's existence would particularly hold back native development.

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It has hot ass support? Hard to be sure when all I'm seeing is spaceships.

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I dunno about the name. "Guildmaster" is OK, but that subtitle seems really gratuitous.

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Quoting: GuestNot a hardcore gamer here (Heck! not even a wannabe aficionado...) and very funny: never played a game in Linux... and it is not my main operating system (I use it for work)... and here I am, sharing my mumble jumble...
I don't really understand the fanatic love & hate to Steam and Epic (among the others)

No, of course you don't. Hrm . . .
Imagine you own a car . . . say, a Renault. You're fairly fond of your Renault. But it can be hard to get service for it in North America.
And imagine there are two chains of car mechanic shops. And one of them, we'll call it "Steam", advertises that they like Renaults, and they have Renault experts on staff, and they make an effort to get Renault parts in. And they back efforts to make standards for car parts so hopefully at some point all the car parts will work with Renaults. And the other one, we'll call it "Epic", refuses to repair Renaults at all, won't even do an oil change on a Renault. Even though you happen to know some Renault owners who have stuck fake Honda symbols on their car, and it turns out the service is decent if you do that. And they make a couple lines of car parts, and those car parts are designed to not fit on a Renault.

Which of these two mechanic shop chains are you going to like? Which are you going to resent?

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Quoting: aokamiProtonDB is by far the most useful tool around.

I believe it's the only, so yeah. Doesn't say much.

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Good job, nice project, screw Epic.

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Quoting: TheSHEEEP

Quoting: sbolokanovAnd unless the publishers keep track for who play via Proton, one is possibly counted as yet another Windows user.

I'm 90% sure Proton plays are counted as Linux ones. Probably read that here in an article.

Yup. Steam considers Proton Linux. This has indeed been mentioned a fair number of times on GoL.

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